I too would like to see "Regime Change" in Iran. --- people like you obviously don't learn from past mistakes.
I do believe in Israel's right to exist --- that makes you a supporter of zionism and willing to sacrifice America's interests for israel. If a Jew wants to go and prop up in the Israeli desert, more power to him; as long as it does not affect our national interests. --- $3 BILLION + per year + US weapons and creating more enemies affects our national interests. choose sides carefully, zioboy. On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 10:43:28 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Good Morning Brine, > > I too would like to see "Regime Change" in Iran. Iran is run by a select > group of Islamic fundamentalist zealots called the "Council of > Guardians/Assembly of Experts"; and the State of Iran is run do > differently than any other religious caliphate with with the same goals, > tendencies and mindset of its 11th and 12th Century Persian forefathers. > It is well documented, (yet not really focused upon or covered by American > media) that Iran has in the past, and continues to export and spread > terrorism throughout the world, in the name of Islam. > > Although I have a number of issues with Israel, I do believe in Israel's > right to exist; Israel's right to defend itself; and in general, I have no > problem with Zionism. If a Jew wants to go and prop up in the Israeli > desert, more power to him; as long as it does not affect our national > interests. It baffles me as to how you and Plain Ol' are opposed to these > concepts. > > With regard to Guiliani, from a political standpoint, I am pretty much in > the same camp. I will read the articles that you just sent; and as I have > oft times stated, I am opposed to ANY American, politician, or not, who > advocates for Israel at the expense of or at the behest of the United > States! For instance, the capital of Israel is Tel-Aviv, and not > Jerusalem. Without going into the reasons for this, (other than the UN was > very specific some 69 years ago and spelled out the reasons why Jerusalem, > which is an international "Open City" should not be the capital of Israel) > I have yet to hear Rudy Guiliani acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's > capital. > > I have yet to hear Guiliani say or do anything that was counter to United > States' interests, but maybe I am mistaken. (Again, I will read the > articles that you have pointed to above) It's much different to commit some > resources or conduct some type of an act, or form policy on behalf of > Israel which is not conducive or beneficial to the United States, versus > politic-ing, advocating for, or catering to to one sect of your > constituency which happen to be Jewish. > > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Here are a few links to some of Giuliani's latest statements ... like ALL >> Mayors of NYC he pandered to the Jewish vote ... he seems to want "regime >> change" in Iran, it's that a code word for war or does he expect another >> 50s style CIA operation??? >> >> >> http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/giuliani-netanyahu-congress-israel/2015/02/01/id/621993/ >> >> >> http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Rudy-Giuliani-Netanyahu-has-obligation-to-deliver-address-to-Congress-389673 >> >> http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/.premium-1.643904 >> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Okay....I'm just wanting to understand how you perceived Guiliani....I >>> haven't heard Guiliani express his desire to prop up in the Israeli desert; >>> I will start paying a little more attention; especially if in fact Mr. >>> Guiliani places Israel's interests above our own. >>> >>> I am listening to PM Netanyahu's speech now before some Jewish Group in >>> (I think) New York......Interesting. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> You agree that Guiliani is a "Zionist Warmongering piece of shit"? >>>> >>>> I'm surprised to see you write that. >>>> >>>> Yes, he is!!! He would have us at war faster than McCain and Lamar >>>> would!!! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good Morning Brine; >>>>> >>>>> You agree that Guiliani is a "Zionist Warmongering piece of shit"? >>>>> >>>>> I'm surprised to see you write that. >>>>> >>>>> I've stayed out of this whole Guiliani discussion, because I too have, >>>>> "Issues" with the Mayor, but for none of the reasons that those in the >>>>> Anti-Jew camp have. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hogwash ... he's a zionist warmongering pos. >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree, but the media has called him "America's Mayor" post 9/11, I >>>>>> don't consider him anything but trash!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:54 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> now he's "America's Mayor" >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> hogwash ... he's a zionist warmongering pos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 2:23:49 PM UTC-6, brine wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rudy was the most hated man in NYC on 9-10-11, there were protests >>>>>>>> daily ... the best thing that ever happened for his career was 9-11, >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> he's "America's Mayor". I can honestly say that he had me hoodwinked >>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>> voted for him for his first term, I moved out of NYC shortly after >>>>>>>> that!!! >>>>>>>> He and Bloomberg destroyed the natural flavor of NYC and pushed out so >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> of the locals that gave it its flavor!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:35 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> March 1, 2015 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Why Does Giuliani Hate American Freedom So Much? *Thomas >>>>>>>>> DiLorenzo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rudy Giuliani made headlines recently by declaring that Obama >>>>>>>>> “hates America.” While that may be true, it is also true that >>>>>>>>> Giuliani is >>>>>>>>> a card-carrying hater of Americans’ freedom since he has always been >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> rapid supporter of the “PATRIOT” Act and its demolition of civil >>>>>>>>> liberties; >>>>>>>>> a cheerleader for the Department of Fatherland Security (He has >>>>>>>>> reportedly >>>>>>>>> made quite a bundle as a “security” expert); and a bloodthirsty >>>>>>>>> warmonger >>>>>>>>> who supports the waste of American blood and treasure in the Middle >>>>>>>>> East as >>>>>>>>> much as any neocon does. And he has no respect for the one man in >>>>>>>>> American >>>>>>>>> politics who has been the undisputed champion of American freedom for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> past several decades -- Ron Paul. It’s hard to think of a bigger >>>>>>>>> champion >>>>>>>>> of the unconstitutional American police state than Rudy Giuliani. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/ >>>>>>>>> group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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