It would seem that the state nanny, has some very delinquent kids who
need to be disciplined.

On Oct 30, 10:00 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Socialism and everyone and everything connected to it is repugnant.  It is
> also anti-American, un-American, subversive, and almost traitorious.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Lone Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > American thinker. A compendium of scawlings by low life gutter trash
>
> > On Oct 31, 10:02 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: *Travis*
> > > Date: Thu, Oct 30, 2008
> > > Subject:  The Repugnance of Socialism
>
> > >    Too bad this type of common sense is not more common.
>
> > > B
>
> > >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_repugnance_of_socialism.html
>
> > > October 30, 2008 The Repugnance of Socialism*By* *Kyle-Anne
> > > Shiver*<http://www.americanthinker.com/kyleanne_shiver/>
>
> > > "The worst difficulties from which we suffer do not come from without.
> >  They
> > > come from within...They come from a peculiar type of brainy people,
> > always
> > > found in our country, who if they add something to our culture, take much
> > > from its strength.  Our difficulties come from the mood of unwarrantable
> > > self-abasement into which we have been cast by a powerful section of our
> > own
> > > intellectuals."
> > >    - Winston Churchill, on Leftists
>
> > > Earlier this year I read a column in which the writer rejoiced because
> > the
> > > word, "socialism," is no longer a scary bogeyman to Americans.  When I
> > > Googled the writer and learned he was only 31 and graduated from
> > Columbia,
> > > it wasn't hard to figure out how he got it all wrong.
>
> > > Since he had clearly been taught our "revised" history -- the one that
> > > glosses over the 100,000,000-grave killing fields of the communists and
> > > makes high drama out of the "sufferings" of the Hollywood blacklisted and
> > > the McCarthy hearings -- he didn't have a clue about what actually
> > > happened.  This pitiful, Ivy-League indoctrinated writer had reached the
> > > false conclusion that Americans used to be scared down to their woolies
> > of
> > > the big bad commies, but weren't anymore.
>
> > > *Isn't it hard to believe that reasonably intelligent parents actually
> > pay
> > > big bucks for those fancy degrees in poppycock?*
>
> > > Americans weren't *scared* of socialism, silly.  They found it
> > *viscerally
> > > repugnant.*
>
> > > *One must never mistake repugnance for fear.  The first is based upon
> > > reason, the latter upon emotion.*
>
> > > And the reasons for loathing socialism are as clear as the nose on
> > anyone's
> > > face.
>
> > > No fully-grown human being with a single ounce of self-respect *ever*
> > *wants
> > > * to be taken care of by others.  No person with dignity will tolerate
> > being
> > > told what to do, what to think, how to work or how to be an "acceptable"
> > > person.  No free man or woman will tolerate the loss of liberty in
> > exchange
> > > for material comfort.
>
> > > Many generations of Americans vehemently rejected these notions over and
> > > over again, not out of fear, but out of the kind of visceral loathing
> > that
> > > makes a normal person wretch, gag and grab for his religion and his guns.
>
> > > *The Lure of the Nanny State*
>
> > >  "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
> > > victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under
> > robber
> > > barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty
> > > may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but
> > those
> > > who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do
> > so
> > > with the approval of their own conscience."
> > >    - C. S. Lewis
>
> > > A great many Americans -- perhaps even a majority -- seem poised to hand
> > > over vast amounts of their hard-earned money and their hard-won liberties
> > to
> > > the promised "collective
> > > redemption"<
> >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/obamas_politics_of_collective...
> > .>being
> >  > offered by Barack Obama and his socialist band of "progressives" in
> > > Congress.  With the votes of nanny-state supporters from all classes
> > among
> > > us, their utopian dreams will be put to the test on our own ground and
> > the
> > > reach of our federal government will be expanded drastically according to
> > > their plans.
>
> > > But how does this really play out?
>
> > > *Always and everywhere it is tried.*
>
> > > *The Socialist's Lure*
>
> > > One of the simplest realities of life is that the person who pays the
> > bill
> > > is the one who makes the decisions.  When that person is you, you decide.
> > > When the payer is a state collective, the collective decides.  And you
> > > obey.
>
> > > *This ain't rocket science.  The freedom to decide is the reason all
> > > children finally leave the security of the nest and jump to the ground.
> > > It's innate.  This will to be free.  To decide for oneself.*
>
> > > Consider only these 3 areas of Obama's collective plan for the redemption
> > of
> > > American society:
>
> > >    - Obama wants to use a lot of taxpayer money to offer education to
> > >    children from birth through college.  Free to mommies and daddies.  On
> > the
> > >    taxpayer dollar, rather than on the parents'.
>
> > > The socialist lure:  Give the state your children and the state will
> > relieve
> > > you of the burden of educating them and teaching them values and
> > knowledge.
> > > Parents, you're off the hook.
>
> > > The result:  The state then makes all the decisions about what your
> > children
> > > will be taught, how they will be brought up, what knowledge is important
> > and
> > > what is not.
>
> > >    - Obama wants to bring the federal government's involvement into
> > >    healthcare to an unprecedented level.
>
> > > The socialist lure:  Give the state your money and the power to enforce
> > > healthcare for all, and the collective state will relieve you of your
> > > responsibility to provide this service for yourselves and your children.
>
> > > The result:  The state makes healthcare decisions.  Healthcare is then
> > > rationed according to need, as decided by the state.
>
> > >    - Obama wants to enshrine positive rights to all citizens that include
> > a
> > >    guaranteed "living wage" to all regardless of individual work.
>
> > > The socialist lure:  No citizen will be without the means to live a
> > fairly
> > > equitable life regardless of individual delinquency or extra effort.
>
> > > The result:  The poor and unfortunate become wards of the state and
> > vastly
> > > increase in number. Work incentives plummet.
>
> > >    - Obama wants our politics to be nice, not mean or divisive.  He wants
> > >    unity.  He wants us all to get along.
>
> > > The socialist lure:  Peace.  Harmony.  Goodwill to all.  No good guys and
> > > bad guys.  All will be nice and we will sing Kumbayah in perfect harmony
> > all
> > > over the world.
>
> > > The result:  Anyone who dissents, who finds error, who sees things
> > > differently will be silenced.  This is the only way collectives ever
> > enforce
> > > their ideas of "unity."
>
> > > Progress?  In the memorable words of C. S. Lewis:
>
> > >  "We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means
> > > doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the
> > > man who turns back soonest is the most progressive."
>
> > > *Freedom and individual responsibility are inseparable.*
>
> > > The choice we are facing in this election is simple.  We have freedom
> > only
> > > when we accept personal responsibility for ourselves and our children.
> >  If
> > > we want to divest ourselves from the responsibility to provide for
> > > ourselves, then we also forfeit our freedom to make our own decisions.
>
> > > Great leaders have appeared from time to time to warn free people of the
> > > innate deceptiveness of the socialists' lures.  Ronald Reagan saw the
> > evil
> > > as clear as day.  Reagan's "ten scariest words in the English language":
>
> > >  "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
>
> > > Winston Churchill expounded further on leftist ideology:
>
> > >  "Let them quit these gospels of envy, hate and malice.  Let them
> > eliminate
> > > them from their politics and programmes.  Let them abandon the utter
> > > fallacy, the grotesque, erroneous fatal blunder of believing that by
> > > limiting the enterprise of man, by riveting the shackles of a false
> > > equality...they will increase the well-being of the world."
>
> > > John McCain is a leader in the same mold as Reagan and Churchill when it
> > > comes to seeing the innate evil within the Marist lure and its deceptive
> > > threat to real peace and any prosperity worth having.  But of these three
> > --
> > > Reagan, Churchill and McCain -- McCain is the only one who has seen
> > > firsthand, from the inside, how it is that collective regimes may appear
> > > fair and just and unified.
>
> > > McCain learned the hard way that socialist fairness is a carefully
> > > choreographed illusion, that socialist justice is a capricious commodity
> > > doled out on a whim by dictators with hard-core boots and clubs.
>
> > > Unity?  Unity is obtained through coercive means and by taking children
> > very
> > > early into indoctrination as model, happy future workers for the
> > collective
> > > "good."
>
> > > So, Obama got his ideas by palling around with radical communist
> > > revolutionaries of the 60s.  Obama chose these radicals as mentors and
> > > friends.  Obama's own parents were from the same mold as well.  Happy
> > > socialists all.
>
> > > John McCain spent a good deal of his adult life with radical socialists
> > > too.  Five and a half years to be precise.  Only McCain got his education
> > on
> > > the merits of communism from inside one of their "utopian" cells under
> > > force.
>
> > > Perhaps never before have Americans had such an easy choice for our next
> > > President.  Here's hoping we've raised more freedom-loving patriots than
> > > fools.
>
> > > Or Obama's victory celebration may turn out to be the biggest April's
> > Fools
> > > Day we could have ever imagined.
>
> > > *Kyle-Anne Shiver is an independent journalist and a frequent contributor
> > to
> > > American
>
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