Agreed Mustang! Again, only in an America with a Democratic (some would say Anti-American) presidential administration would the narrative be gun restriction when we've just experienced another terrorist attack.....Go Figure.....
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 5:48 PM, 'Mustang' via PoliticalForum < [email protected]> wrote: > My cousin's two boys were on the no-fly list. They couldn't read or > write. Along with Ted Kennedy, they were *preschoolers* suspected of > ties to the Irish Republican Army. > > There needs to be an actual investigation of facts before innocent people > are put on the list. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > *To:* politicalforum <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2015 6:13 AM > *Subject:* Re: [grendelreport] The Bill of Rights Watch List > > A "slippery slope"..... > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > > I honestly have no problem with not allowing a person who is on the list > not be allowed to buy guns!!! There also needs to be a way to > prove/disprove that a person is a threat in a timely manner!!! > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [image: http://www.nysun.com/images/logo_ladies.gif] > *The Bill of Rights Watch List* > *Editorial of The New York Sun | December 10, 2015* > > Now that Connecticut is going to bar persons on the Federal terrorism > watch list from buying guns, the question is: What’s next? The move by the > governor of the Nutmeg State, Daniel Malloy, strips persons on the > terrorism list of their rights under the Second Amendment to keep and bear > arms. But could that be all the governor has in mind? > Another step would be also to strip persons on the Watch List of their > First Amendment Rights. “What could possibly be the argument for allowing a > terrorist suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon?” President Obama in > respect of the Second Amendment. A good question. But what could possibly > be the argument for allowing a terrorist suspect to go into a church or > mosque? > It is true that going to a church or mosque is protected under the > free-exercise clause of the First Amendment. It’s also true that the First > Amendment is part of the same Bill of Rights as the Second Amendment. Then > again, religion is a personal thing. Maybe anyone on the terrorism list > ought to be allowed to go to mosque — but lose the protection of the Third > Amendment. > The Third is the amendment that prohibits the quartering of soldiers in > private homes in times of peace. And why in Sam Hill should persons on the > Terrorism Watch List enjoy projection of the Third Amendment. If they’re > not going to be able to buy guns, why shouldn’t they also be forced to have > soldiers quartered in their homes? Why do they deserve the privacy right? > Or, for that matter, the protection of the Fourth Amendment. The Fourth is > one of the great peaks in the Himalayas of the Bill of Rights. If the First > is Everest, we like to say, the Fourth is K-2. It protects against searches > and seizures that are unreasonable. But what is unreasonable about > abandoning the warranting process for searching members of the Terrorism > Watch list? > Look at the Fifth Amendment, too. The Fifth is the amendment that > prohibits the government from forcing a person to testify against himself. > It’s the amendment to which people refer when they “plead the Fifth.” Why > should members of the Terrorism Watch List enjoy the right to plead the > Fifth in a United States of America courtroom? > No doubt some will protest that the Second Amendment is different — that > it’s more dangerous for a person on the Terrorism List to be able to buy a > gun than to be able to hide behind the Fifth Amendment or the Fourth or > Third. But why? What’s the difference between the protections of the Second > and the protections of the rest? > Take your Sixth Amendment. Surely Mr. Obama and Governor Malloy are not > going to permit persons on the Terrorism Watch List to enjoy the right to a > trial by a jury of their peers. What are we going to do, empanel a jury of > members of the Terrorism Watch List every time a member of the list lands > in the dock? > It gets even graver in respect of the Seventh Amendment. That gives > persons involved in civil suits for more than $20 the right to have the > facts decided by a jury. How could President Obama or Governor Malloy > extend this kind of invitation to trouble to persons who are already on the > Terrorism Watch List? > The next thing one knows, they’ll be asking for bail, which is the right > vouchsafed in the Eighth Amendment. Surely Messrs. Obama and Malloy are not > going to assert that it’s safe to allow persons on the Terrorism Watch List > access to the Eight Amendment. Why do *they* deserve bail bail? Why > *shouldn’t* they be subject to cruel and unusual punishment? > Fie on the Eighth Amendment. Fie on the Ninth and Tenth. Fie on the whole > idea of the Bill of Rights. What good is it if the government can stick a > person on a Watch List without a trial and then suspend their rights? If > the President wants to suspend the Second Amendment, the logic is to > suspend them all. The only other option would be to send an army to defeat > our enemies so we wouldn’t need a watch list at all. > > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> > ------------------------------ > > > Visit Your Group > <http://undefined/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaHAxdXU1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NDk4NTgwNzE-?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> > > > [image: Yahoo! 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