Keith, I have watched the vids. and there is nothing that I do not accept in them, except for the 4th, he was in effect rehashing what the others had said, except in such a strident bigoted way, that he lost me, I have always thought that it's not what you say, but how you say it that really matters. The one thing I (unfortunately) agreed with Trump, was that Germany and quite probably other European and the UK will have escalating riots because of the huge numbers of these refugees. Like you and many others, would I have been there when those refugees asked for special food/money/sex whatever, I believe they should have been taken by the scruff and put on a leaky boat to whatever hell hole they came from, as well as those that were advocating that islam will take over and that they will reproduce to such an extent as to become the dominant population.
All this I totally accept, unfortunately this is the legacy of the English, French, Italian and to an extent German colonial empires, and, after the war, the economic empire of the USA, remember, you armed Saddam Hussein, you armed Osama Bin Laden, you arm Israel to perpetrate ethnic cleansing on the palestinians you, and us, support the gulf states to the hilt still! having said that, I still believe most are genuine, you on the other hand, bundle everyone as being the baddies. Although not a religious person, given the state of affairs, I've often thought that one solution might be to say, ok, you want to live in my country, we are a Christian country, so if you want to live here, you have to convert; and I mean this to apply to any religion, if they don't like it, they can bugger off to their own countries of origin, eventually we might achieve a more comprehensive society. We would all have to change our constitutions, but desperate times call for desperate measures. On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:42 PM, pluto of brougham < [email protected]> wrote: > Please explain > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Projection much? >> >> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >> >> >> pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am most certainly not omnipotent, you on the other hand think of >> yourself as infallible, what you think/believe is the truth and everyone >> else be damned, as a matter of interest, when did you discover this >> infallibility, was it a gradual realisation, or was a road to damascus >> moment Regan. As well, as so many good Christians do, you are ever so >> comfortable in picking and choosing which Christian values you espouse. >> >> Keith, just watched the first vid, will look at the others and get back >> to you with any comments. >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Now I get it, you literally have the power of God since you know my >>> prayers. I am sorry, I thought you were just a man and now I find out you >>> are omnipotent. >>> >>> There are better and more humane ways to take care of the refugees than >>> bringing them into our country without proper vetting. Once again simple >>> common sense. Of course we have incompetent fools running this country so >>> all they can do is open the floodgates and let in murderers. It has nothing >>> to do with being a good Christian out not. >>> >>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >>> >>> >>> pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> None so blind as those that will not see, I would suggest that the >>> millions fleeing Syria and other parts of the mid.east do qualify as >>> genuine refugees, obviously there are opportunists amongst them as well, >>> but, let us throw out the baby with the bath water. It really is heart >>> warming though to see how you both follow Our Lord's dictum to the letter, >>> and please, do not misunderstand me, I do not wish to start again a war of >>> insults, but whereas when most of us go to church (in my case these days >>> just for funerals) we pray to God to help/make us better, with the greatest >>> respect, I believe when you two go to church your prayer is "thank you God >>> for making me so perfect" >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Spot On" Regan! Said much more eloquently than what I was trying to >>>> convey! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pure sophistry from Pluto. >>>>> 1. The term "illegal refugee" is nonsensical. A refugee is someone >>>>> fleeing a country because of war, persecution or oppression. The >>>>> ascription of legal status to such term cannot add or subtract to the >>>>> term. One either is or is not a refugee. >>>>> 2. Joseph was instructed to flee to Egypt by an angel because of the >>>>> edict of King Herod. Thus they were being persecuted by a government and >>>>> were true refugees. Further, God is sovereign over all nations. A >>>>> directive from God is always right and good, He would know in advance if >>>>> the Holy Family would be safe in Egypt. >>>>> 3. No one has said that legal immigration must cease. That is a >>>>> straw man. The adults are merely saying that we should be cautious and >>>>> wise with who we allow in to our countries so as to not jeopardize our >>>>> citizens, culture, or governance. The illegal aliens and false refugees >>>>> (able bodied men of military age) are nothing more than invaders and >>>>> should >>>>> be treated as such. Further, legal immigration from known countries that >>>>> support, encourage, and fund terrorism must be heavily scrutinized and >>>>> limited. Nothing more than common sense >>>>> >>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I daresay there are many who do regard the term "illegal refugee" with >>>>> affection, in fact I remember Pharaoh saying exactly that same thing when >>>>> Our Lady, St. Joseph and the baby Jesus sought refuge in Egypt. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good Evening Pluto! >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, color me confused; I am unaware of any Nation-State that >>>>>> considers immigrating into their respective Nation-State a >>>>>> "right".....It's >>>>>> not. Those individuals who are not citizens; and are "alien" to the >>>>>> respective Nation they are attempting ti immigrate to; have no right to >>>>>> immigrate. They may have basic unalienable rights which at least in our >>>>>> Nation are respected; but make no mistake; immigration into the United >>>>>> States is no unalienable right, period. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone who enters into the United States illegally is in fact in >>>>>> violation of United States immigration laws, (as they are in Australia, >>>>>> and most other Western Society Nation-States) and are in fact: >>>>>> "illegal". >>>>>> These individuals are "alien" to the Nation; and with regard to their >>>>>> "refugee" status.....That's probably debatable. The term "illegal alien" >>>>>> works for me; and is an apt, proper and legal description. I am >>>>>> cognizant >>>>>> of the term offending Progressives; which is baffling to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 7:24 PM, pluto of brougham < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Keith, I'm totally aware of our immigration laws, and only agreed >>>>>>> with the riff raff video in one respect, that anyone immigrating/seeking >>>>>>> refuge in any country does not have automatic right to that country's >>>>>>> citizenship; back to our own laws, it is an extremely vexatious subject, >>>>>>> but what most of our people object to, is the gulags we have set up to >>>>>>> house these refugees, remember, there is no such thing as an illegal >>>>>>> refugee, it is a contradiction in terms!! >>>>>>> What I most objected about that clip, was the fact that he was quite >>>>>>> happy to entertain the possibility of you having another civil war, >>>>>>> that's >>>>>>> just what we need right now. >>>>>>> Far as my beloved Regan is concerned, whose vocabulary seems to be >>>>>>> restricted to only one word "trolling" (must confess I have never fully >>>>>>> understood the term) you, as the moderator, have every right to ask me >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> remove myself, and I shall do so immediately if so requested, but until >>>>>>> such time, I shall continue calling a spade a fucking shovel, as I have >>>>>>> done throughout my life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good Morning Regan and Pluto! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While I was "researching" a response to Pluto's charming little >>>>>>>> post, Regan beat me to the punch... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pluto, what specifically is it that you consider Wild Bill's video >>>>>>>> which consists of "shit of the bull"? In fact, Wild Bill's expose on >>>>>>>> Teddy Kennedy and the Immigration Act of 1965 is correct...This is a >>>>>>>> law >>>>>>>> that needs to be repealed, and has been to some degree already. We're >>>>>>>> getting ready to see massive changes to our immigration laws as well >>>>>>>> as our >>>>>>>> border security in the United States, that I would imagine would >>>>>>>> emulate >>>>>>>> the immigration laws and border security of Australia. Maybe you >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> get a little more familiar with your own immigration laws? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUUnvn2vPm2H4RL0MJATh4VQ&v=38NONnBWDD0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.border.gov.au/Trav >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> EXHIBIT A Prima Facie Trolling. >>>>>>>>> Pluto's comment has no critical thinking analysis, no logic and is >>>>>>>>> instead replete with logical fallacies. Purely an emotional ad >>>>>>>>> hominem >>>>>>>>> attack without any rebuttal of the premises. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we really need our in-boxes filled up with this ongoing >>>>>>>>> nonsense? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What a lot of shit of the bull, obviously someone who is a product >>>>>>>>> of generations of inbreeding and incest, amazingly, he actually knew >>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>> the American revolution was, truly wonders will never cease!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Travis <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BareNakedIslam posted: "We have Sen. Teddy Kennedy to 'thank' in >>>>>>>>>> 1965 for virtually closing the doors to educated, skilled, white >>>>>>>>>> European >>>>>>>>>> immigration and opening them wide to third world and Muslim welfare >>>>>>>>>> queens, >>>>>>>>>> deadbeats, & thugs. https://youtu.be/z-C5ykKxas8" >>>>>>>>>> New post on *BARE NAKED ISLAM* >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> WILD BILL FOR AMERICA >>>>>>>>>> on Democrat Riff Raff (Muslim, etc) Immigration, legal and Illegal >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/18/wild-bill-for-america-on-democrat-riff-raff-muslim-etc-immigration-legal-and-illegal/> >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> BareNakedIslam <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have Sen. 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