. I suppose at the end of the day you are to be pitied your illogical answer. --- ok ... I apologize. when I hear people recommend taking gun privies away I over react. do you have an issue with guns you would like to discuss?
On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 10:54:10 PM UTC-6, pluto of brougham wrote: > > How eloquently you prove my point boy, you have not the > skill/articulation/education to make a valid point why you need them, so > your pathetic response is to try to silence anyone who disagrees. I suppose > at the end of the day you are to be pitied your illogical answer. > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 2:13 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> what's stfu stand for >> --- >> guns are necessary ... so shut the fuck up. >> >> On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 6:53:16 PM UTC-6, pluto of brougham wrote: >>> >>> say again, what's stfu stand for >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:48 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "And on the sixth day thou shalt manufacture firearms for the murderous >>>> and the feeble minded" >>>> --- >>>> you sound like a religious myth believer. >>>> guns are necessary ... those who don't understand should stfu. >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 6:16:40 PM UTC-6, pluto of brougham >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "And on the sixth day thou shalt manufacture firearms for the >>>>> murderous and the feeble minded" >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:49 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Why Beretta is moving its gun factory to Tennessee >>>>>> by Aaron Smith @AaronSmithCNN >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=AaronSmithCNN> >>>>>> [image: beretta factory]Beretta is moving its Maryland factory >>>>>> (pictured here) to Tennessee because of Maryland's tough new gun laws. >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmoney.cnn.com%2F2015%2F12%2F17%2Fnews%2Fcompanies%2Fberetta-guns-factory-tennessee-maryland%2Findex.html&title=Why%20Beretta%20is%20moving%20its%20gun%20factory%20to%20Tennessee> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Why%20Beretta%20is%20moving%20its%20gun%20factory%20to%20Tennessee&via=CNNMoney&related=CNNMoney%3ABreaking%20news%20and%20in-depth%20looks%20at%20the%20most%20important%20business%20stories%20of%20the%20day.&url=http://cnnmon.ie/1NUTjZT> >>>>>> Beretta USA says Maryland's tough new gun laws are the reason it's >>>>>> moving its factory to gun-friendly Tennessee. >>>>>> >>>>>> The American subsidiary of the 500-year-old Italian company has had a >>>>>> factory in Accokeek, Maryland since the 1970s. The company has >>>>>> manufactured >>>>>> the M9, the U.S. Army's standard-issue sidearm, since 1987 at that >>>>>> factory, >>>>>> which is about 20 miles south of Washington, D.C. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beretta is relocating the factory to Gallatin, Tenn., in early 2016, >>>>>> because it's worried that Maryland gun laws could force it out of the >>>>>> state. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maryland is one of several states that have passed new gun laws to >>>>>> restrict military-style semiautomatic rifles >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/04/news/companies/san-bernardino-killings-ar15/?iid=EL> >>>>>> and >>>>>> high capacity magazines since the mass shooting in Newtown, >>>>>> Connecticut >>>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/politics/obama-newtown-anniversary/?iid=EL>, >>>>>> >>>>>> three years ago. These weapons have been used in subsequent mass >>>>>> shootings, >>>>>> including the recent one in San Bernardino >>>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/us/san-bernardino-shooting/?iid=EL>. >>>>>> >>>>>> The state's Firearm Safety Act of 2013, championed by former Maryland >>>>>> governor and Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley, targets >>>>>> assault weapons, banning 45 guns and limiting magazine capacity to 10 >>>>>> rounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Maryland law means that Beretta's M9 semiautomatic pistol >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/22/news/beretta-m9-lethal-weapon/index.html?iid=EL>, >>>>>> >>>>>> which holds 15 rounds, is now illegal in the state, said Beretta USA's >>>>>> lead >>>>>> lawyer, Jeff Reh. He said the ban also applies to Beretta's pistol grip >>>>>> shotguns, and also to the semiautomatic rifles >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/09/news/companies/assault-weapon-sales/?iid=EL> >>>>>> like >>>>>> the ARX 100 <http://www.beretta.com/en-us/arx-100/>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reh said that the company lobbied successfully to change the law so >>>>>> that Beretta could continue to make, import and warehouse these guns in >>>>>> Maryland, even though private citizens can't own them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Related: Remington shifts jobs from N.Y. to Alabama >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/20/news/companies/remington-jobs/?iid=EL> >>>>>> >>>>>> Still, Reh said, the company realized that "with the stroke of a pen >>>>>> our ability to manufacture products for the armed forces, or police, or >>>>>> even civilians, could be blocked." >>>>>> >>>>>> But the city of Gallatin, Tennessee, welcomed Beratta's $45 million >>>>>> gun factory with open arms and $4 million in incentives. That includes >>>>>> 100 >>>>>> acres of land worth $1.75 million and a 10-year tax abatement worth >>>>>> about >>>>>> $2.2 million, according to James Fenton, Gallatin's economic development >>>>>> director. >>>>>> >>>>>> "It was the best financial package that we were offered," said Reh. >>>>>> [image: three berettas]Beretta's M9 handguns are restricted in >>>>>> Maryland because the magazines can hold more than 10 rounds. So the >>>>>> company >>>>>> moved production to Tennessee. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gallatin is a city of more than 30,000 people some 20 miles out of >>>>>> Nashville, which puts it close to an international airport, a necessity >>>>>> for >>>>>> the gunmaker. >>>>>> >>>>>> "We will see an immediate increase in real and personal property >>>>>> taxes," said Fenton. "We have seen a jump in local sales tax during the >>>>>> first phase of construction. Additionally, there continues to be robust >>>>>> interest in the area because of the [Beretta] announcement." >>>>>> >>>>>> Fenton expects the factory to eventually employ 300 people, most of >>>>>> them hired locally. Beretta's sales, marketing, legal and customer >>>>>> service >>>>>> staff will stay in Maryland. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beretta's move south started when the company's patriarch, Ugo >>>>>> Gussalli Beretta, asked Reh to identify "the most consistently >>>>>> pro-Second >>>>>> Amendment states in the country." >>>>>> >>>>>> "He told me, 'If we're going to build a factory somewhere, I want to >>>>>> put it in a state where I don't have to worry about it, or my sons don't >>>>>> have to worry about it, or even my grandkids,'" said Reh. "So he's >>>>>> taking a >>>>>> 100-year view of the company." >>>>>> >>>>>> This will be the third factory that Beretta has built since the company >>>>>> started in the early 1500s >>>>>> <http://www.beretta.com/en-us/world-of-beretta/since-1526/>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reh said that he personally visited 80 potential factory locations in >>>>>> Georgia, Texas, the Carolinas, Kentucky and also Virginia, which he >>>>>> liked >>>>>> because of its proximity to Maryland. But he abandoned Virginia because >>>>>> Governor Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, ran for office on a gun control >>>>>> platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gallatin's James Fenton said that gun control laws in Virginia and >>>>>> Maryland are a boon for Tennessee. >>>>>> >>>>>> "I would like to mention that the [former] governor of Maryland is my >>>>>> best friend for passing that legislation," he said, "even though we've >>>>>> never met." >>>>>> >>>>>> Related: My 'Lethal Weapon' moment with Beretta's new gun >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/22/news/beretta-m9-lethal-weapon/index.html?iid=EL> >>>>>> >>>>>> Related: Background checks on track for a record year >>>>>> <http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/03/news/san-bernardino-fbi-background-checks/index.html?iid=EL> >>>>>> CNNMoney (New York) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 5:47:17 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> School District in Tennessee Arms TeachersJustin Holcomb >>>>>>> <http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/>| Dec 21, 2015 >>>>>>> [image: Justin Holcomb] >>>>>>> <http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Share on Facebook*6* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> - 6 SHARES >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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