Here's then State Senator Obama defending partial birth abortions and opposing a bill that would protect a child born alive during an abortion; and allowing it to die or be put to death.....Obviously, this would constitute "Infanticide":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkbuhXzbvI#t=139 On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Pluto, > > Infanticide in the United States is considered killing an infant who is > below the age of 12 months. This would include what is termed, "Partial > Birth" abortions; *e.g*.; an abortion when the baby is past a certain > age in the womb, (In general, it's sometime during the third trimester of > a woman's pregnancy). > > President Obama did in fact support partial birth abortions; Obama as a > State legislator also voted against a bill that would have protected > aborted babies who were alive after the abortion. > > I don't like these "FactCheck" sites, because several of them have a very > biased opinion on their purported "Facts". In this case, I believe this > is a pretty good representation of what transpired, and fair to President > Obama: > > http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/ > > > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, pluto of brougham < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Keith, I cannot dispute each and every point like you do, I like to be >> informed, but do not spend my entire days following your politics, however, >> I need you to clarify one important point, what exactly do you mean by >> "infanticide" does this refer to abortion, I cannot believe anyone would >> even contemplate murdering babies. If it does refer to abortion, whilst I >> would not advocate it, nevertheless it is the woman's/parents choice, and >> in many cases far better the child not be born then to be born in wretched >> circumstances and possibly end up in prostitution/life of crime. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Good Morning Pluto, >>> >>> To date, President Obama has not produced an original, "certified" birth >>> certificate, and his attorneys have admitted that the birth certificates >>> produced are frauds. Personally, (and I believe the general consensus is) >>> President Obama was born in Hawaii, but there is something on his birth >>> certificate that he doesn't want the general public to see. (Like maybe who >>> his real father is; and many speculate that his father is Frank Marshall >>> Davis.) >>> >>> Although I know who Mike Gallagher is, I have never listened to his >>> show....I've seen him on several talk shows, and I think this "*List of >>> Observations*"; would have been better had it been better researched. >>> As I acknowledged, there are several inaccuracies; Let's review: >>> >>> >>> *President Obama:* >>> This is why you didn't go to France to show solidarity against the >>> Muslim terrorists: >>> >>> - *It was you* who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner - "*I am >>> one of yo*u." True >>> - *It was you* who on ABC News referenced - "*My Muslim faith*." >>> True >>> - *It was you* who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to >>> re-build foreign mosques. True >>> - *It was you* who wrote that in the event of a conflict -"*I will >>> stand with the Muslims*." True >>> - *It was you* who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that - "*I >>> am a Muslim*." Unknown. >>> - *It was you* who bowed in submission before the Saudi King. True >>> - *It was you* who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church >>> condemning Christianity and professing Marxism. True >>> - *It was you* who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare >>> that the rest of us have to pay. False >>> - *It was you* who purposefully omitted - "*endowed by our Creator* " >>> - from your recitation of The Declaration of Independence. True >>> - *It was you* who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's “Sermon On >>> The Mount” while repeatedly referring to the '*HOLY* ' Qur'an. >>> Unknown >>> - *It was you* who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United >>> States of America.True; President Obama went on the "America >>> Apologizes" Tour! >>> - *It was you* who instantly threw the support of your >>> administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque >>> overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center. True >>> - *It was you* who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, >>> but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the White House. >>> True >>> - *It was you* who ordered Georgetown University and Notre Dame to >>> shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to >>> speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you >>> have >>> visited adjust their decor. Unknown >>> - *It was you* who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar >>> Corps. True >>> - *It was you* who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security. >>> Semi-True >>> - *It was you* who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an >>> outreach to Muslim communities. True >>> - *It was you* who as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY individual >>> who would speak in favor of infanticide. >>> - Semi-True; President Obama did in fact support Infanticide while >>> in the Illinois Legislature >>> - >>> - *It was you* who was the first President not to give a Christmas >>> Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang photos of >>> Chairman Mao on the White House tree. Unknown >>> - >>> - *It was you* who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic >>> terrorists. True >>> - *It was you* who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an >>> Islamic terrorist. True >>> - *It is you* who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific >>> executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have >>> submitted >>> Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses. >>> Semi-True >>> - *It was you* who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the >>> true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised >>> Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic >>> terrorists assaults. True >>> - *It was you* who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to >>> Hamas. Semi-True >>> - *It was you* who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with >>> a new commemorative stamp. Semi-True >>> - *It was you* who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to >>> help "empower" the British Muslim community. True >>> - *It was you* who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your >>> quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak. True >>> - *It was you* who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture >>> studies in Grammar schools across our country. Unknown. I suspect >>> False; >>> - *It is you* who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form >>> of jewelry during Ramadan.Unknown >>> - *It is you* who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as >>> to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal White House >>> religious events. True >>> - *It was you* who was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus >>> of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly >>> America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your >>> non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians. >>> True >>> - *It was you* who appointed your chief adviser, *Valerie Jarrett, >>> an Iranian*, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot >>> of the Muslim Brotherhood. False in the sense that Jarrett is not >>> Iranian; the rest is unknown >>> >>> The above provides the basis for virtually everything Obama does. >>> Distribute this far and wide. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:51 AM, pluto of brougham < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Come on Keith, I cannot believe that the president of the USA would >>>> demand that statues of Our Lord be shrouded when he visited, and that he >>>> would mock the sermon on the mount as well as the Bible, and that he would >>>> say that he is a Moslem, remember when his adversaries kept saying that he >>>> is not an American, and if I'm not mistaken, had to produce his birth >>>> certificate to prove otherwise; I'm sure the other side puts out defamatory >>>> propaganda as well, but fair crack of the whip. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Although there are a couple of inaccuracies, I'd hardly say that this >>>>> was "A Lie". What is contained within those "Facts" that you purport to >>>>> be a lie Pluto? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:00 AM, pluto of brougham < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will >>>>>> eventually come to believe it. Joseph Goebbels >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *INTERESTING LIST OF OBSERVATIONS* >>>>>>> (A veteran in talk radio, Mike Gallagher is the 8th most recognized >>>>>>> talk radio personality in the country (*The Benchmark Company*), is >>>>>>> heard by over 2.25 million listeners weekly). >>>>>>> Written by Mike Gallagher, an American radio host and conservative >>>>>>> political commentator. He is the host of The Mike Gallagher Show. Many >>>>>>> listeners have asked about the, "*Obama: It Was You*," essay that >>>>>>> someone sent me. Here it is: >>>>>>> *President Obama:* >>>>>>> This is why you didn't go to France to show solidarity against the >>>>>>> Muslim terrorists: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - *It was you* who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner - "*I >>>>>>> am one of yo*u." >>>>>>> - *It was you* who on ABC News referenced - "*My Muslim faith*." >>>>>>> - *It was you* who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to >>>>>>> re-build foreign mosques. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who wrote that in the event of a conflict -"*I >>>>>>> will stand with the Muslims*." >>>>>>> - *It was you* who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that - "*I >>>>>>> am a Muslim*." >>>>>>> - *It was you* who bowed in submission before the Saudi King. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology >>>>>>> Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who exempted Muslims from penalties under >>>>>>> Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who purposefully omitted - "*endowed by our >>>>>>> Creator* " - from your recitation of The Declaration of >>>>>>> Independence. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's “Sermon >>>>>>> On The Mount” while repeatedly referring to the '*HOLY* ' Qur'an. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the >>>>>>> United States of America. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who instantly threw the support of your >>>>>>> administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque >>>>>>> overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who refused to attend the National Prayer >>>>>>> Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the >>>>>>> White >>>>>>> House. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who ordered Georgetown University and Notre Dame >>>>>>> to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have visited adjust their decor. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your >>>>>>> Czar Corps. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland >>>>>>> Security. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an >>>>>>> outreach to Muslim communities. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY >>>>>>> individual who would speak in favor of infanticide. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who was the first President not to give a >>>>>>> Christmas Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang >>>>>>> photos >>>>>>> of Chairman Mao on the White House tree. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who curtailed the military tribunals of all >>>>>>> Islamic terrorists. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an >>>>>>> Islamic terrorist. >>>>>>> - *It is you* who has refused to speak-out concerning the >>>>>>> horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical >>>>>>> human-rights >>>>>>> abuses. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who when queried in India refused to acknowledge >>>>>>> the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely >>>>>>> praised >>>>>>> Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous >>>>>>> Islamic >>>>>>> terrorists assaults. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer >>>>>>> dollars to Hamas. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday >>>>>>> with a new commemorative stamp. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach >>>>>>> to help "empower" the British Muslim community. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in >>>>>>> your quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture >>>>>>> studies in Grammar schools across our country. >>>>>>> - *It is you* who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any >>>>>>> form of jewelry during Ramadan. >>>>>>> - *It is you* who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season >>>>>>> so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal >>>>>>> White House >>>>>>> religious events. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who was uncharacteristically quick to join the >>>>>>> chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, >>>>>>> formerly >>>>>>> America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your >>>>>>> non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians. >>>>>>> - *It was you* who appointed your chief adviser, *Valerie >>>>>>> Jarrett, an Iranian*, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, >>>>>>> an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above provides the basis for virtually everything Obama does. >>>>>>> Distribute this far and wide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> [image: https://www.avast.com/antivirus] >>>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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