I don't know how anyone couldn't. The FBI and Justice is clearly over-reaching here, and what compounds the problem, (Ir Americans will take the time to remember and think) is that we have forgone some of our basic rights in the past (e.g.; The Patriot Act) with that promise by the government that, "We'll only implement these rules and laws against terrorism) to see them used against the American people who had nothing whatsoever to do with terrorists or terrorism.
A big flat "NADA". On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:42 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > that's not what the FBI is asking for. > they want a back door that they can use in the future. > > Tim Cook is being kind by not telling them to go fuck themselves. > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:05:03 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >> >> Simple solution is for Apple to decrypt the phone and give the FBI a >> printed copy of everything on it. >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I support Apple on this one!!! >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:33 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> February 16, 2016A Message to Our Customers >>>> >>>> The United States government has demanded that Apple take an >>>> unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers. We oppose >>>> this order, which has implications far beyond the legal case at hand. >>>> >>>> This moment calls for public discussion, and we want our customers and >>>> people around the country to understand what is at stake. >>>> The Need for Encryption >>>> >>>> Smartphones, led by iPhone, have become an essential part of our lives. >>>> People use them to store an incredible amount of personal information, from >>>> our private conversations to our photos, our music, our notes, our >>>> calendars and contacts, our financial information and health data, even >>>> where we have been and where we are going. >>>> >>>> All that information needs to be protected from hackers and criminals >>>> who want to access it, steal it, and use it without our knowledge or >>>> permission. Customers expect Apple and other technology companies to do >>>> everything in our power to protect their personal information, and at Apple >>>> we are deeply committed to safeguarding their data. >>>> >>>> Compromising the security of our personal information can ultimately >>>> put our personal safety at risk. That is why encryption has become so >>>> important to all of us. >>>> >>>> For many years, we have used encryption to protect our customers’ >>>> personal data because we believe it’s the only way to keep their >>>> information safe. We have even put that data out of our own reach, because >>>> we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business. >>>> The San Bernardino Case >>>> >>>> We were shocked and outraged by the deadly act of terrorism in San >>>> Bernardino last December. We mourn the loss of life and want justice for >>>> all those whose lives were affected. The FBI asked us for help in the days >>>> following the attack, and we have worked hard to support the government’s >>>> efforts to solve this horrible crime. We have no sympathy for terrorists. >>>> >>>> When the FBI has requested data that’s in our possession, we have >>>> provided it. Apple complies with valid subpoenas and search warrants, as we >>>> have in the San Bernardino case. We have also made Apple engineers >>>> available to advise the FBI, and we’ve offered our best ideas on a number >>>> of investigative options at their disposal. >>>> >>>> We have great respect for the professionals at the FBI, and we believe >>>> their intentions are good. Up to this point, we have done everything that >>>> is both within our power and within the law to help them. But now the U.S. >>>> government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something >>>> we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor >>>> to the iPhone. >>>> >>>> Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone >>>> operating system, circumventing several important security features, and >>>> install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong >>>> hands, this software — which does not exist today — would have the >>>> potential to unlock any iPhone in someone’s physical possession. >>>> >>>> The FBI may use different words to describe this tool, but make no >>>> mistake: Building a version of iOS that bypasses security in this way would >>>> undeniably create a backdoor. And while the government may argue that its >>>> use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such >>>> control. >>>> The Threat to Data Security >>>> >>>> Some would argue that building a backdoor for just one iPhone is a >>>> simple, clean-cut solution. But it ignores both the basics of digital >>>> security and the significance of what the government is demanding in this >>>> case. >>>> >>>> In today’s digital world, the “key” to an encrypted system is a piece >>>> of information that unlocks the data, and it is only as secure as the >>>> protections around it. Once the information is known, or a way to bypass >>>> the code is revealed, the encryption can be defeated by anyone with that >>>> knowledge. >>>> >>>> The government suggests this tool could only be used once, on one >>>> phone. But that’s simply not true. Once created, the technique could be >>>> used over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, >>>> it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of >>>> millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No >>>> reasonable person would find that acceptable. >>>> >>>> The government is asking Apple to hack our own users and undermine >>>> decades of security advancements that protect our customers — including >>>> tens of millions of American citizens — from sophisticated hackers and >>>> cybercriminals. The same engineers who built strong encryption into the >>>> iPhone to protect our users would, ironically, be ordered to weaken those >>>> protections and make our users less safe. >>>> >>>> We can find no precedent for an American company being forced to expose >>>> its customers to a greater risk of attack. For years, cryptologists and >>>> national security experts have been warning against weakening encryption. >>>> Doing so would hurt only the well-meaning and law-abiding citizens who rely >>>> on companies like Apple to protect their data. Criminals and bad actors >>>> will still encrypt, using tools that are readily available to them. >>>> A Dangerous Precedent >>>> >>>> Rather than asking for legislative action through Congress, the FBI is >>>> proposing an unprecedented use of the All Writs Act of 1789 to justify an >>>> expansion of its authority. >>>> >>>> The government would have us remove security features and add new >>>> capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input >>>> electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by “brute >>>> force,” trying thousands or millions of combinations with the speed of a >>>> modern computer. >>>> >>>> The implications of the government’s demands are chilling. If the >>>> government can use the All Writs Act to make it easier to unlock your >>>> iPhone, it would have the power to reach into anyone’s device to capture >>>> their data. The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand >>>> that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access >>>> your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access >>>> your phone’s microphone or camera without your knowledge. >>>> >>>> Opposing this order is not something we take lightly. We feel we must >>>> speak up in the face of what we see as an overreach by the U.S. government. >>>> >>>> We are challenging the FBI’s demands with the deepest respect for >>>> American democracy and a love of our country. We believe it would be in the >>>> best interest of everyone to step back and consider the implications. >>>> >>>> While we believe the FBI’s intentions are good, it would be wrong for >>>> the government to force us to build a backdoor into our products. And >>>> ultimately, we fear that this demand would undermine the very freedoms and >>>> liberty our government is meant to protect. >>>> >>>> Tim Cook >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> >>>> According to the AP, soon-to-be-heroic technicians have uncovered 22 >>>> million email messages from the George W. Bush administration—far more than >>>> the Bush White House said they'd lost >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_e-mail_controversy> in >>>> the first place. >>>> >>>> That's a lot of emails—but not as much data as you might first think. >>>> Berkeley estimated in 2003 the average email size to be around 18,500 >>>> bytes >>>> <http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/projects/how-much-info/internet.html>. >>>> That's about 379 gigabytes of lost email, give or take a few Powerpoint >>>> attachments with slides missing in the "Find a reason to invade Iraq" >>>> section. >>>> >>>> *Mother Jones* had details of the recovery process >>>> <http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/exclusive-white-house-emails-case-nearing-settlement> >>>> : >>>> >>>> Restoration of missing emails promises to be the trickiest part of the >>>> settlement agreement. The White House first ran into archiving problems in >>>> 2003, but didn't begin to address the problem until October 2005. Only in >>>> the final days of the Bush administration did the White House begin working >>>> with contractors-including software giant Microsoft-to find missing >>>> messages. >>>> >>>> Don't expect to see these for a while. The National Archives have to >>>> sift through the emails before they'll be released to the public. But >>>> expect a thousand Freedom of Information Act requests to let fly towards >>>> Washington in the meantime. [Telegram/AP >>>> <http://www.telegram.com/article/20091214/NEWS/912149977/>] >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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