In other words ... you got nuthin'... just what I thought. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:37 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote:
> To smash the egg of a Bald Eagle is a felony... why ? It certainly does > not take a life, does not destroy an Eagle, does not do anything more than > let you see a mass of cells when the shell is cracked. > --- > > The *Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act* (16 U.S.C. > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Code> 668-668d) is a United > States <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America> federal > statute <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._federal_law> that protects > two species of eagle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle>. The bald eagle > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle> was chosen as a national > emblem of the United States <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> by > the Continental Congress > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Congress> of 1782 and was > given legal protection by the Bald Eagle Protection Act of 1940. This act > was expanded to include thegolden eagle > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_eagle> in 1962.[1] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEWisch2002-1> > Since > the original Act, the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act has been amended > several times. It currently prohibits anyone, without a permit > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License> issued by the Secretary of the > Interior > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Interior>, > from "taking" bald eagles <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle>. > Taking is described to include their parts, nests, or eggs, molesting or > disturbing the birds. The Act provides criminal > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal>penalties for persons who "take, > possess, sell, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, > transport, export or import, at any time or any manner, any bald eagle ... > [or any golden eagle], alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof." > [2] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEIraola2005-2> > > The purpose of the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection act is to not agitate > the bald and golden eagle to the extent of not 1.) Abusing an eagle, 2.) > Interfering with its substantial lifestyle, including shelter, breeding, > feeding, or 3.) Nest abandonment.[3] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEUSFWS2010-3> > > > > Why is it illegal to collect Salmon eggs from a river? > --- > because freshwater river salmon are somewhat endangered because of > pollution and poachers would decimate the salmon stock. > > This is directly aimed at your line of logic.... Please explain that logic > fully. My logic is very simple.... If the DNA is mixed, there is blood > flowing and the "mass of cells" has the potential to be human life it must > live.... regardless of religion or lack of morals. > --- > opinion noted ... but the fact is abortion is legal and is the mother's > decision ... not yours or the governments. > > > On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 12:48:49 PM UTC-5, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: >> >> Plain ol, >> >> Then please riddle me this.... >> >> To smash the egg of a Bald Eagle is a felony... why ? It certainly does >> not take a life, does not destroy an Eagle, does not do anything more than >> let you see a mass of cells when the shell is cracked. >> >> Why is it illegal to collect Salmon eggs from a river? >> >> Why is it .............ad nausea. There is no proof the Mother i >> uninformed or that she is opposed to such actions. >> >> This is directly aimed at your line of logic.... Please explain that >> logic fully. My logic is very simple.... If the DNA is mixed, there is >> blood flowing and the "mass of cells" has the potential to be human life it >> must live.... regardless of religion or lack of morals. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 10:01:16 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote: >>> >>> You and your lot should be shunned at a minimum, imprisoned and locked >>> up is a better plan for your Anti-American lifestyle and the treason that >>> you pose on our People. >>> --- >>> we understand your fear ... it was instilled by the church to keep you >>> afraid of a mythical place called hell. >>> To some degree we pity you ... but first we have to remove your ilk from >>> our secular government. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> No Plain Ol'; as I just pointed out, (in the other thread) it is you >>>> who are the bigger threat and danger to the LGBT Community; and to >>>> Americans in general. You and your lot should be shunned at a minimum, >>>> imprisoned and locked up is a better plan for your Anti-American lifestyle >>>> and the treason that you pose on our People. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> and you're a xian bigot who persecutes lgbt's and those with different >>>>> beliefs. >>>>> >>>>> the good news! >>>>> xians in the US are being marginalized more every day. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 3:05:27 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, you're an idiot, a secular progressive idiot at that. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:50 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fact that you believe that the abortion of an eight week old >>>>>>> "Mass Of Cells/Fetus/Embryo/Baby" (Insert your own terminology) shows >>>>>>> once >>>>>>> again your ignorance and lack of knowledge..... >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> humans have been aborting fetuses for millennium and American law >>>>>>> says it's legal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the fact that you would impose your beliefs on women is typical of >>>>>>> xian persecution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> don't like abortion? >>>>>>> don't have one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fact that you believe that the abortion of an eight week old >>>>>>>> "Mass Of Cells/Fetus/Embryo/Baby" (Insert your own terminology) shows >>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>> again your ignorance and lack of knowledge..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not one but you do know there are gay and feminist Christians >>>>>>>>> don't you plain ol? >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> yep .. religious myth believers come in all sizes, shapes, colors >>>>>>>>> and delusions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's very believable that Jesus was gay, a pacifist, and an >>>>>>>>> individualist anarchist >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> the dead-jew-on-a-stick jesus is a religious myth, just like his >>>>>>>>> jewish patriarchs and history. >>>>>>>>> in fact, there's no historical evidence that hebrews were slaves >>>>>>>>> in egypt, that an exodus occurred or that abraham, noah, or king >>>>>>>>> david ever >>>>>>>>> existed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 2:10:27 PM UTC-5, Bruce Majors wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not one but you do know there are gay and feminist Christians >>>>>>>>>> don't you plain ol? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's very believable that Jesus was gay, a pacifist, and an >>>>>>>>>> individualist anarchist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that it will become completely illicit >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> oh ... come on ... show some xian guts and say it's an >>>>>>>>>>> abomination, it will destroy our society and cause god to stop >>>>>>>>>>> blessing >>>>>>>>>>> America ... or some shit like that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 5:40:25 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that there will be great restrictions placed on >>>>>>>>>>>> abortion in the next few years.....I don't believe that it will >>>>>>>>>>>> become >>>>>>>>>>>> completely illicit, but federally funded abortions are about to >>>>>>>>>>>> come to a >>>>>>>>>>>> screeching halt, and abortion at the drop of a dime will soon be >>>>>>>>>>>> over..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:54 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is still legal ... you're the one that's outdated and >>>>>>>>>>>>> defeated. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so why do you think jews and catholics on the USSC keep >>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion legal? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:47:31 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *"abortion will remain the mother's choice ... regardless of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what xians think."* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again proving how and why you are a Secular Progressive; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of touch with Americans, the United States, its principals >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tenets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just another example of why you and your kind are not only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdated, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will in fact be defeated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no doubt that by the eighth week of pregancy; the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fetus is in fact a human baby, and abortion is factually, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion noted but you're wrong again ... just ask the jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and catholics on the USSC who make the laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion will remain the mother's choice ... regardless of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what xians think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 11:21:53 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's typical Secular Progressive nonsense Plain Ol'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's obviously not my place to determine "when" a fetus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes more than just a mass of cells; but scientifically, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fertilization, a fertilized egg has his or her own unique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNA, different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from any other human being on the planet, with everything from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eye color to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sex has already been determined. There's no doubt that by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eighth week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pregancy; the fetus is in fact a human baby, and abortion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is factually, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder. It may be legal, but that doesn't make it moral or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethical. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Had you been aborted you would have been murdered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delusion noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is not murder, regardless of what religious myth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believing xians think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but hey ... they're free to cry their eyes out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 6:38:45 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People can justify and rationalize anything. Legally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redefine and relabel to make it sound palatable as a salve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to one's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conscience. life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starts at conception. your life and others may be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless to yourself but I'm glad and thankful for mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Had you been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aborted you would have been murdered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2016 9:25 AM, "plainolamerican" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is not murder and it will remain legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of what religious myth believing xians want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gtheist957 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should be a murder charge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2016 3:04 PM, "plainolamerican" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma's Senate passed a law Thursday that would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalize abortion, an extraordinary measure that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clashes sharply with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longstanding rulings from the nation's highest court. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physicians who perform an abortion could be charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a felony and stripped of their medical license under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure, which now goes to Gov.Mary Fallin. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill becomes law in five days unless she vetoes it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallin said she has not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided what she will do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican state Sen. Nathan Dahm wants the measure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to become a driving force in bringing down Roe v. Wade, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOP state Sen. Ervin Yen, a physician who voted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the measure, called it “insane” and said he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the bill would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face a court challenge, the *Tulsa World* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/capitol_report/oklahoma-senate-passes-bill-to-make-it-a-felony-to/article_2ffd21c9-ce55-50f6-ada1-99c3a8f9bc66.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National abortion rights groups were quick to express >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outrage. Jennifer Miller, spokeswoman for the Center for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reproductive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights, said the bill is the first of its kind in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation and called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon Fallin to veto it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Since Gov. Fallin took office in 2011, she has signed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 bills restricting access to reproductive health care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services," Miller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. "Each of these laws has been blocked by courts." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amanda Allen, lawyer for the center, said the measure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented "a new low," and called it "harmful, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discriminatory, clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional, and insulting to Oklahoma women and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their families." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NARAL Pro-Choice America sounded a similar theme. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Against a backdrop of a presidential nominee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatening to punish women for accessing abortion, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma's new bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalizing this vital reproductive service is reckless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous," said NARAL President Ilyse Hogue. "This bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puts doctors in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cross hairs for providing women with the option of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercising our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental right to decide how and when to start a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump, the Republican Party's presumptive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential nominee, recently said there "has to be some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment" for women who have abortions. He later said >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he meant that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "women punish themselves." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Gans, civil rights director at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitutional Accountability Center, said the measure is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The Supreme Court has many times said it violates the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty the 14th Amendment guarantees to all persons," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gans said. 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