No, you post gibberish that has nothing to do with present reason.... the government says it is just fine to kill up to 4200 Bald Eagles per year if a wind farm does it... it is just fine to take the salmon eggs for similar idiotic reasons that are juxtaposed to a secular humanist position that you claim....
Further I asked that you explain your logic in the matter. You can read, I know that, therefore it was an abject lack of reason on your part or you claim lapdog status and simply do as dictated. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:55 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > you got nuthin' > --- > just as I thought ... you're unable to understand english ... should I > post it in hebrew, yidboy? > > On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 1:53:24 PM UTC-5, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: >> >> In other words ... you got nuthin'... just what I thought. >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:37 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> To smash the egg of a Bald Eagle is a felony... why ? It certainly does >>> not take a life, does not destroy an Eagle, does not do anything more than >>> let you see a mass of cells when the shell is cracked. >>> --- >>> >>> The *Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act* (16 U.S.C. >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Code> 668-668d) is a United >>> States <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America> federal >>> statute <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._federal_law> that protects >>> two species of eagle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle>. The bald >>> eagle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle> was chosen as a >>> national emblem of the United States >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> by the Continental >>> Congress <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Congress> of 1782 >>> and was given legal protection by the Bald Eagle Protection Act of 1940. >>> This act was expanded to include thegolden eagle >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_eagle> in 1962.[1] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEWisch2002-1> >>> Since >>> the original Act, the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act has been amended >>> several times. It currently prohibits anyone, without a permit >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License> issued by the Secretary of the >>> Interior >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Interior>, >>> from "taking" bald eagles <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle>. >>> Taking is described to include their parts, nests, or eggs, molesting or >>> disturbing the birds. The Act provides criminal >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal>penalties for persons who >>> "take, possess, sell, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, >>> transport, export or import, at any time or any manner, any bald eagle ... >>> [or any golden eagle], alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof." >>> [2] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEIraola2005-2> >>> >>> The purpose of the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection act is to not >>> agitate the bald and golden eagle to the extent of not 1.) Abusing an >>> eagle, 2.) Interfering with its substantial lifestyle, including shelter, >>> breeding, feeding, or 3.) Nest abandonment.[3] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_and_Golden_Eagle_Protection_Act#cite_note-FOOTNOTEUSFWS2010-3> >>> >>> >>> >>> Why is it illegal to collect Salmon eggs from a river? >>> --- >>> because freshwater river salmon are somewhat endangered because of >>> pollution and poachers would decimate the salmon stock. >>> >>> This is directly aimed at your line of logic.... Please explain that >>> logic fully. My logic is very simple.... If the DNA is mixed, there is >>> blood flowing and the "mass of cells" has the potential to be human life it >>> must live.... regardless of religion or lack of morals. >>> --- >>> opinion noted ... but the fact is abortion is legal and is the mother's >>> decision ... not yours or the governments. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 12:48:49 PM UTC-5, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: >>>> >>>> Plain ol, >>>> >>>> Then please riddle me this.... >>>> >>>> To smash the egg of a Bald Eagle is a felony... why ? It certainly does >>>> not take a life, does not destroy an Eagle, does not do anything more than >>>> let you see a mass of cells when the shell is cracked. >>>> >>>> Why is it illegal to collect Salmon eggs from a river? >>>> >>>> Why is it .............ad nausea. There is no proof the Mother i >>>> uninformed or that she is opposed to such actions. >>>> >>>> This is directly aimed at your line of logic.... Please explain that >>>> logic fully. My logic is very simple.... If the DNA is mixed, there is >>>> blood flowing and the "mass of cells" has the potential to be human life it >>>> must live.... regardless of religion or lack of morals. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 10:01:16 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You and your lot should be shunned at a minimum, imprisoned and locked >>>>> up is a better plan for your Anti-American lifestyle and the treason that >>>>> you pose on our People. >>>>> --- >>>>> we understand your fear ... it was instilled by the church to keep you >>>>> afraid of a mythical place called hell. >>>>> To some degree we pity you ... but first we have to remove your ilk >>>>> from our secular government. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No Plain Ol'; as I just pointed out, (in the other thread) it is >>>>>> you who are the bigger threat and danger to the LGBT Community; and to >>>>>> Americans in general. You and your lot should be shunned at a minimum, >>>>>> imprisoned and locked up is a better plan for your Anti-American >>>>>> lifestyle >>>>>> and the treason that you pose on our People. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> and you're a xian bigot who persecutes lgbt's and those with >>>>>>> different beliefs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the good news! >>>>>>> xians in the US are being marginalized more every day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 3:05:27 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again, you're an idiot, a secular progressive idiot at that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:50 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fact that you believe that the abortion of an eight week old >>>>>>>>> "Mass Of Cells/Fetus/Embryo/Baby" (Insert your own terminology) >>>>>>>>> shows once >>>>>>>>> again your ignorance and lack of knowledge..... >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> humans have been aborting fetuses for millennium and American law >>>>>>>>> says it's legal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the fact that you would impose your beliefs on women is typical of >>>>>>>>> xian persecution. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> don't like abortion? >>>>>>>>> don't have one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The fact that you believe that the abortion of an eight week old >>>>>>>>>> "Mass Of Cells/Fetus/Embryo/Baby" (Insert your own terminology) >>>>>>>>>> shows once >>>>>>>>>> again your ignorance and lack of knowledge..... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not one but you do know there are gay and feminist >>>>>>>>>>> Christians don't you plain ol? >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> yep .. religious myth believers come in all sizes, shapes, >>>>>>>>>>> colors and delusions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's very believable that Jesus was gay, a pacifist, and an >>>>>>>>>>> individualist anarchist >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> the dead-jew-on-a-stick jesus is a religious myth, just like his >>>>>>>>>>> jewish patriarchs and history. >>>>>>>>>>> in fact, there's no historical evidence that hebrews were slaves >>>>>>>>>>> in egypt, that an exodus occurred or that abraham, noah, or king >>>>>>>>>>> david ever >>>>>>>>>>> existed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 2:10:27 PM UTC-5, Bruce Majors wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not one but you do know there are gay and feminist >>>>>>>>>>>> Christians don't you plain ol? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's very believable that Jesus was gay, a pacifist, and an >>>>>>>>>>>> individualist anarchist >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe that it will become completely illicit >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> oh ... come on ... show some xian guts and say it's an >>>>>>>>>>>>> abomination, it will destroy our society and cause god to stop >>>>>>>>>>>>> blessing >>>>>>>>>>>>> America ... or some shit like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 5:40:25 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that there will be great restrictions placed on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion in the next few years.....I don't believe that it will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> become >>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely illicit, but federally funded abortions are about to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> screeching halt, and abortion at the drop of a dime will soon be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:54 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is still legal ... you're the one that's outdated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and defeated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so why do you think jews and catholics on the USSC keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion legal? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 12:47:31 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *"abortion will remain the mother's choice ... regardless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of what xians think."* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again proving how and why you are a Secular >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Progressive; out of touch with Americans, the United States, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its principals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tenets. Just another example of why you and your kind are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdated, but will in fact be defeated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no doubt that by the eighth week of pregancy; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fetus is in fact a human baby, and abortion is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factually, murder. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion noted but you're wrong again ... just ask the jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and catholics on the USSC who make the laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion will remain the mother's choice ... regardless of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what xians think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 11:21:53 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's typical Secular Progressive nonsense Plain Ol'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's obviously not my place to determine "when" a fetus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes more than just a mass of cells; but scientifically, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fertilization, a fertilized egg has his or her own unique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNA, different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from any other human being on the planet, with everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from eye color to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sex has already been determined. There's no doubt that by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the eighth week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pregancy; the fetus is in fact a human baby, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is factually, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder. It may be legal, but that doesn't make it moral or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethical. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Had you been aborted you would have been murdered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delusion noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is not murder, regardless of what religious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myth believing xians think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but hey ... they're free to cry their eyes out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 6:38:45 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People can justify and rationalize anything. Legally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redefine and relabel to make it sound palatable as a salve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to one's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conscience. life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starts at conception. your life and others may be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worthless to yourself but I'm glad and thankful for mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Had you been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aborted you would have been murdered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2016 9:25 AM, "plainolamerican" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion is not murder and it will remain legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of what religious myth believing xians want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gtheist957 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should be a murder charge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2016 3:04 PM, "plainolamerican" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma's Senate passed a law Thursday that would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalize abortion, an extraordinary measure that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clashes sharply with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longstanding rulings from the nation's highest court. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physicians who perform an abortion could be charged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a felony and stripped of their medical license >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure, which now goes to Gov.Mary Fallin. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill becomes law in five days unless she vetoes it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallin said she has not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided what she will do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican state Sen. Nathan Dahm wants the measure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to become a driving force in bringing down Roe v. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that legalized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOP state Sen. Ervin Yen, a physician who voted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the measure, called it “insane” and said he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the bill would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face a court challenge, the *Tulsa World* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/capitol_report/oklahoma-senate-passes-bill-to-make-it-a-felony-to/article_2ffd21c9-ce55-50f6-ada1-99c3a8f9bc66.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National abortion rights groups were quick to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> express outrage. Jennifer Miller, spokeswoman for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reproductive Rights, said the bill is the first of its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind in the nation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and called upon Fallin to veto it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Since Gov. Fallin took office in 2011, she has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed 18 bills restricting access to reproductive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health care services," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miller said. "Each of these laws has been blocked by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> courts." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amanda Allen, lawyer for the center, said the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure represented "a new low," and called it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "harmful, discriminatory, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly unconstitutional, and insulting to Oklahoma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> women and their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> families." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NARAL Pro-Choice America sounded a similar theme. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Against a backdrop of a presidential nominee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatening to punish women for accessing abortion, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma's new bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalizing this vital reproductive service is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reckless and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous," said NARAL President Ilyse Hogue. "This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill puts doctors in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cross hairs for providing women with the option of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercising our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental right to decide how and when to start a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump, the Republican Party's presumptive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential nominee, recently said there "has to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some form of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment" for women who have abortions. He later said >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he meant that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "women punish themselves." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Gans, civil rights director at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitutional Accountability Center, said the measure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconstitutional. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The Supreme Court has many times said it violates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the liberty the 14th Amendment guarantees to all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persons," Gans said. 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