There is a redneck trailer park here called Shangdi La

Leaving the religious belief out of the above, I believe from what I heard
from various sources, that trailer parks tend to provide the raunchiest
hottest sexual experiences, can anyone confirm this (I'm being serious)

If ever I were to visit the States again, would love to visit one as well
as a Walmart store, pics I've seen of the clients therein would be greatly
entertaining methinks.

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> geoffrey theist <[email protected]>: Jun 02 09:47PM -0500
>
> There is a redneck trailer park here called Shangri La that's full of
> babtists. people generally avoid that place does that count?
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 11:02PM -0400
>
> Good Evening Geoffrey!
>
> <Grin>! Touche'! Yeppers, I would imagine that the Shangri-La would be a
> "No-Go-Zone" for folks like Plain Ol'....Plain Ol' would most definitely
> get his ass kicked in that fine establishment!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:47 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 03 07:56AM -0400
>
> So, you don't believe the City of Dearbourn's pointing out the article was
> on a humor site???
>
> I am sure there are Muslims there, but the city DID NOT VOTE FOR SHARIA
> LAW!!!!
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> --
> brine
> http://brineb.blogspot.com/
> plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 03 05:50AM -0700
>
> Shangri-La would be a "No-Go-Zone" for folks like Plain Ol'....Plain Ol'
> would most definitely get his ass kicked in that fine establishment!
> ---
> ah ... baptists are loud but harmless lot. They do more harm to themselves
> than others ... unlike the catholics and jews.
>
> fwiw ... I had two great uncles who were baptist ministers. They never
> drank or smoked or had a good time but they did manage to marry fat ugly
> german women.
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
> plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:43AM -0700
>
> the city DID NOT VOTE FOR SHARIA LAW!!!!
> ---
> just another islamophobe lie.
>
> it should be noted that the hatred of muzzies in Dearborn is coming from
> zionist xians.
> they travel no telling how far to show up at an arab festival, camera
> rolling, with a pig's head on a pole and hebrew writing on their shirts
> screaming about muhammed ... and then whine to the police like fucking
> babies when the get assaulted.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEq2M1_-M_U
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_8MO7IIlCw
>
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 6:56:16 AM UTC-5, brine wrote:
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 03 09:56AM -0400
>
> Okay.......I guess maybe my comment was misplaced here; there seems to be
> two premises going on in this thread:
>
> 1. Whether the City of Dearborn Michigan's City Counceil voted for and
> attempted to implement Sharia law; and,
>
> 2. Whether there are "No-Go Zones/Zones Urbaines Sensibles" in the United
> States or Europa.
>
> Although the City Council in Dearborn is all Islamic; there's obviously
> been no attempt to vote in Sharia Law; (Babs & Milquetoast actually got one
> right! Hooray!) and yes, there are clearly Islamic "No-Go Zones/Zones
> Urbaines Sensibles" here in the U.S. including in Michigan, New York,
> Florida; and in Europe all over Great Britain and the Continent.
>
> We're all still waiting for Plain Ol' to list these Christian and Jewish
> "No-Go Zones/Zones Urbaines Sensibles"......
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:43 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 03 10:16AM -0400
>
> Try walking in the Jewish section of Williamsburg to see how welcome you
> are, they have "community police" that keep gentiles out!!!
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> --
> brine
> http://brineb.blogspot.com/
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 03 10:26AM -0400
>
> Hey Brine!
>
> We've played this game before, on this very subject. I recall Googling
> terms like "Jeewish Section of Williamsburg" and clearly, there's even
> "Gentile" shops and stores in the area. Both Jews and Gentiles co-exist;
> and I don't think this could even remotely be construed as a Jewish "No-Go
> Zones/Zones Urbaines Sensibles".
>
>
>
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> Hillary Clinton: The Neocon in Democrat's Clothing
> <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/3ff3a7251632308a?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> MJ <[email protected]>: Jun 03 09:03AM -0400
>
> 27 May 2016
>
> Hillary Clinton: The Neocon in Democrat's Clothing
>
> By Pierre Guerlain
>
> The next president of the United States will almost certainly be a
> Republican. No, not the one everyone in the media rejects, the buffoon
> named Donald Trump who stands no chance of shaking the hands of world
> leaders. Chances are, the next Republican president will be a woman, and
> yes, her name will be Hillary Clinton.
>
> No kidding, if this comes to pass, history will be made: the first woman
> president and among the first Republican neocons in Democratic garb.
> Everyone knows the expression "a wolf in sheep's clothing." Now, it seems
> the United States will invent the macho Republican in feminist, Democratic
> clothing.
>
> Many authors have quoted a sentence by Bill Clinton:
>
> We're all Eisenhower Republicans here, and we are fighting the Reagan
> Republicans. We stand for lower deficits and free trade and the bond
> market. Isn't that great?
>
> Eisenhower Republicans were, by today's standards, quite moderate. The
> quote refers to the 1990s, and already Bill Clinton had triangulated his
> presidency to Republican-hood. He had demolished Aid to Families With
> Dependent Children and bought into the bash-the-poor rhetoric of the right
> wing. He had passed a crime bill that targeted people of color; he had
> destroyed FDR's legacy, notably by abolishing the Glass-Steagall Act. And
> he was so "tough on crime" that during the 1992 presidential campaign
> season, he had gone back to his home state of Arkansas to witness the
> execution of Ricky Ray Rector, who was "mentally deficient." Bill Clinton
> might not have inhaled marijuana, but he certainly had inhaled the poison
> of right-wing ideas.
>
> As we all know, Hillary Clinton openly supported many of Bill Clinton's
> political measures. She used the terrible expression "superpredators,"
> supported the crime bill and made a hash of health insurance reform. Liza
> Featherstone talks about Hillary Clinton's faux feminism, and she links her
> critique to class themes, which is as it should be. Feminists cannot be
> elite feminists or 1% feminists if they want to defend the rights of all
> women.
>
> For more original Truthout election coverage, check out our election
> section, "Beyond the Sound Bites: Election 2016."
>
> Hillary Clinton's track record on issues of poverty, racial justice and
> justice for women is appalling. As a former member of the board of Walmart,
> she sided with the rich and powerful, which she also does when she gives
> speeches for Wall Street. The really important question is how someone who
> has constantly sided with the rich can campaign as a progressive, as a
> friend of people of color and even as a feminist? Michelle Alexander
> exposed the hypocrisy of the situation in arguing that " Hillary Clinton
> doesn't deserve the black vote."
>
> On foreign policy issues, Hillary Clinton is not even an Eisenhower
> Republican, but a war hawk whose philosophy and shortsightedness is
> evidenced by the flippant way in which she advocated for war in Libya and
> the way in which she celebrated. "We came, we saw, he died," she said and
> laughed loudly. This cruel statement does not take into account the mess
> and mayhem left behind after the intervention, something President Obama
> calls a " shit show" and his worst mistake. But it is the companion piece
> to her major fellow elite "feminist" Madeleine Albright declaring that
> killing half a million Iraqis is worth it.
>
> Hillary Clinton, like true neoliberals in the GOP, supported the North
> American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), so as Bill had said she supported
> the bond market and free trade. Now, she claims she did not, but, of
> course, she is lying. Her lies also have to do with Wall Street (she has
> not released the text of her speeches), support for people of color and her
> feminism.
>
> The challenge by Bernie Sanders, who is still around and has no intention
> of dropping out of the primaries, made Clinton change her tune, but, of
> course, she is ready to say anything to be elected. Now that she is facing
> a buffoon who makes racist, sexist, dishonest remarks all the time, she can
> play a series of cards that do not correspond to who she really is: the
> progressive card, the antiracist card, the feminist card, the "consistent"
> card, the geopolitical card. The campaign circus or electoral extravaganza
> can now become man vs. woman, or rather, racist white man vs. "friend of
> minorities" woman. Yet, if there is little doubt that Donald Trump is a
> vile demagogue who sometimes hits upon an issue of concern to ordinary
> people, the identity of the other candidate is all phony.
>
> Feminism cannot be only about the equality of CEO compensations. Equality
> in CEO compensations in general should exist at a much-reduced level. In
> his book Listen, Liberal, Thomas Frank tells the story of a Clinton
> convention meeting he attended and what he witnessed was Hillary Clinton as
> "Ms. Walmart," pretending she cares about all women. Frank, who is
> genuinely worried about rising inequality in the United States and racial
> justice, suggests that elite feminism is worried about the glass ceiling
> for CEOs, but does not even worry about working-class women who have "no
> floors" under them. Hillary Clinton is a 1% millionaire who now talks the
> progressive talk, but never really walked the progressive walk.
>
> It would indeed be a symbolic change if the US elected a woman president,
> but for the symbol not to be empty, something more is needed. If a woman
> president does not improve the lot of the majority of women, then what is
> the good of a symbol?
>
> Hillary Clinton is actually to the right of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
> -- "Ike." He refused to use the atom bomb in Asia, showing more
> geopolitical prudence than Hillary "we came and he died" Clinton. He also
> wanted to preserve the FDR advances that the Clintons have done so much to
> cancel or erase.
>
> In a 1954 letter to his brother, Eisenhower wrote: "Should any political
> party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and
> eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear from that party
> again in our political history."
>
> Unfortunately, Ike was not right. Later, the Republicans -- starting with
> Hillary Clinton's youth idol Barry Goldwater -- and the Democrats calling
> themselves "New Democrats" vied with each other to dismantle the New Deal
> and the Great Society programs that Democrats had set up. Noam Chomsky
> argues that the GOP is not a political party any longer, but a radical
> insurgency, for it has gone off the political cliff. The Democrats have
> become the Old Republicans and Hillary Clinton is more neocon than
> traditional conservative of the Eisenhower type.
>
> So Hillary Clinton, the Republican, is poised to win in November, but her
> Republicanism is closer to George W. Bush's and even more conservative than
> Ronald Reagan's -- except on the societal issues that have now reached a
> kind of quasi-consensus like same-sex marriage. She is a pro-business,
> Koch-compatible lover of Wall Street who uses feminism like some
> pinkwashers or greenwashers use progressive agendas to sell regressive
> policies. Author Diana Johnstone calls her the "Queen of Chaos." Clinton is
> the queen of deception, faux feminism and faux progressivism, whose
> election will be made easier by her loutish, vulgar, sexist loudmouth of an
> opponent.
>
> In his book The Deep State, Mike Lofgren quotes HL Mencken, who gave away
> what explains the success of the political circus: "The whole aim of
> practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to
> be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all
> of them imaginary."
>
> George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives were past masters at
> this creation of hobgoblins, but now Hillary Clinton, the opportunist, can
> outdo them and out-Republicanize them. I think Ike would not like her; she
> might now be even more reactionary than Goldwater. Indeed, Charles Koch
> (whose hatred of progressivism is well documented by Jane Meyer in her
> book, Dark Money) expressed some admiration for Bill and Hillary Clinton
> and said he could vote for Hillary this time around.
>
> The GOP is dying, but a reactionary Republican in faux progressive
> clothing, loved by the wolves of Wall Street and the wolves of the
> Kochtopus, will most probably win.
>
>
> http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/36201-hillary-clinton-the-neocon-in-democrat-s-clothing
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 03 09:32AM -0400
>
> LOL!
>
> Michael, clearly Pierre Guerlain doesn't even know what a "NeoCon" even
> is! By definition, a NeoCon is in fact a Democrat, or a former Democrat.
>
> I didn't get very far in this article....What with the premise that Clinton
> will even be the Democratic Nominee (which I am of the belief is highly
> unlikely); and that Hil Clinton could beat Trump are both far fetched
> notions.
>
> I do in a sense agree with Guerlain's premise though. Clinton is a (Choose
> your own term, they're all accurate!) "Fatalist/Globalist/Federalist" (or
> as former Speaker Gingrich terms them: "Pseudo-Intellectual Georgetown Bar
> Crowd") but in general, Clinton is a elitist, establishment DC Powerbroker
> who supports a strong large "Federal/Central" governnment; and will engage
> our military at the drop of a dime in order to support the alleged
> "Industrial-Military Complex".
>
>
>
> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 03 10:14AM -0400
>
> In general, Clinton is a elitist, establishment DC Powerbroker who supports
> a strong large "Federal/Central" governnment; and will engage our military
> at the drop of a dime in order to support the alleged "Industrial-Military
> Complex".
>
> Keith,
>
> We agree on something!!!
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> --
> brine
> http://brineb.blogspot.com/
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 03 10:21AM -0400
>
> <Grin>! Good Morning Brine!
>
> I see not a dime's worth of difference between the Clintons and the Bushes;
> (and others who also fall into the "Globalist/DC Powerbroker"
> camp.....Nothing new, but I do think that this 2016 election cycle on both
> sides of the aisle, has made it easier for Americans to see the corruption!
>
>
> (And you know that we agree on far more than just this! As a matter of
> fact, whether I am more "conservative" than you on one issue, and you more
> "liberal" than me on another is of no consequence! In general, like most
> in this Group, and the majority of Americans are, we're "Traditionalists".
> We believe in general that America is a good, noble Nation, as well as its
> people! Yes, we've made a number of mistakes over the course of years, but
> we try to rectify those mistakes, pick our collective selves up; dust
> ourselves off, and carry forward!
>
> This is inopposite to the "Secular Progressive" Camp, who believes that
> America is inherently evil, and not at all noble or good. That our entire
> history should be rewritten and that America should become nothing more or
> less than a Third World or Fourth World Nation-State.
>
> Know The Enemy!
>
>
>
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> plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 03 05:44AM -0700
>
> Far left extremist Anti-American Secular Progressives have no idea what
> Donald Trump has said, or what his message is.
> ---
> delusion noted.
>
> his message?
> he changes his words and opinions more than GHWBush changes his Depends.
>
> from his own words we know he would deny lgbt's equal rights ...
> On Thursday, Trump talked to the Des Moines Register about "exploring" a
> presidential run, and was asked f he supports "allowing same-sex couples
> to
> marry."
>
> Trump said "no," but didn't stop there. When asked whether gay couples
> should have access to "the same benefits as married couples," the mogul
> initially replied that his attitude on the issue was not yet "fully
> formed."
>
> After thinking about it for a moment, however, Trump said: "As of this
> moment, I would say no and no" to gay marriage and civil benefits.
>
> --
>
> from his own words we know he would try to build a fence on our southern
> border ... which is wrong for humans and wildlife.
>
> “I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me,
> believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great,
> great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that
> wall. Mark my words.”
>
> ---
>
> from his own words we know he's a xenophobe and would try to get china to
> assassinate the leader of north korea.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuIClGGj758
>
> ---
>
> from his own words we know he would punish women who have abortions
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Jpoecf0xY
>
>
> should I continue?
>
>
> regardless of his opinions, I will won't vote for him because he, like
> other neocons and zionists, are hateful toward other nations, supports the
> failed US interventionist policy and is unfit and knowledgeable to
> represent America.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 5:56:58 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 03 08:57AM -0400
>
> Your quote from the Des Moines Register is a blatant lie. I got no further
> than that, this is typical, and of course, you will acknowledge this and/or
> be now known as a Secular Progressive "LilMarxistMoonbatTomForNews" like
> liar
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:44 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
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> What We Know About The UCLA Gunman And His Victims
> <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/d4a3751f6841ed1f?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 07:30AM -0500
>
>
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/what-we-know-about-the-ucla-gunman-and-his-victims?utm_term=.cfn9m8oMo#.wmD1Y8767
>
> [[ Apparently not a Muslim. ]]
> Back to top <#m_815358212671924138_digest_top>
> Check out Police: Gunman in UCLA murder-suicide had planned 3 killings -
> AOL
> <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/3f2efb1df70ce7cc?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> [email protected]: Jun 03 02:34AM -0400
>
> _Click here: Police: Gunman in UCLA murder-suicide had planned 3 killings
> - AOL_
> (
> http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/02/man-who-killed-ucla-professor-accused-of-killing-a-woman-in-minn/21388354/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_
> lnk2&pLid=-1007446322_htmlws-main-bb)
>
> Any way to determine if this killer was a Moslem? What was his country of
> origin?
> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:25AM -0500
>
> I have not seen anything yet but if I do I will post it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum <
> Tracey Robertson <[email protected]>: Jun 03 07:35AM -0400
>
> His name was Mainak Sarkar. I am betting middle eastern.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 03 08:06AM -0400
>
> I believe he was from India, some of his college training was in India. No
> idea of his religion, there are a few in India, largest is Hindu.
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum <
>
> --
> brine
> http://brineb.blogspot.com/
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> plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 03 04:59AM -0700
>
> not just to me ...
>
> 1. *Zionism as an ideology *- Zionist ideology holds that the Jews are a
> people or nation like any other, and should gather together in a single
> homeland. Zionism was self-consciously the Jewish analogue of Italian and
> German national liberation movements of the nineteenth century. The term
> "Zionism" was apparently coined in 1891 (1885 according to some sources)
> by
> the Austrian publicist Nathan Birnbaum, to describe the new ideology, but
> it was used retroactively to describe earlier efforts and ideas to return
> the Jews to their homeland for whatever reasons, and it is applied to
> Evangelical Christians who want people of the Jewish religion to return to
> Israel in order to hasten the second coming.
>
> 2. *Zionism as a descriptive term *- It is also used to describe the
> belief
> that Jews should return to their ancient homeland, and might be applied
> not
> only to the religious ideas of Evangelical Christians, but to the
> preaching
> of the ancient prophets..
>
> 3. *Zionism as a political movement* - The Zionist movement was founded by
> Theodore Herzl in 1897, incorporating the ideas of early thinkers as well
> as the organization built by Hovevei Tziyon ("lovers of Zion").
> What isn't Zionism?
>
> Not everything that the Zionist movement accomplished, or that Zionists do
> or say, is a necessary part of Zionism
>
> *Not just about a state* - Zionism was not, historically, officially a
> movement to create a "Jewish State." The first Zionist congress in Basle,
> Switzerland, in 1897 resolved:
>
> Zionism seeks to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine
> secured under public law (or International Law).
>
> Zionists therefore sought charters from governments to establish a
> national
> home under their protection. The objectives of the Basle Program were
> thought to have been realized with the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the
> Mandate for Palestine granted to the British in 1922. However, the British
> eventually reneged on their mandate obligation to support a Jewish
> homeland. In 1942 the Biltmore Conference resolved to adopt the goal of
> creating a Jewish state in Palestine, in opposition to British policy.
> This
> was not the original official goal of Zionism, but a departure from it
> forced by circumstances.
>
> *Not just about religion* - There are many religious Zionists, and early
> proponents of return to Zion in the 19th century were rabbis. However, the
> founders of the Zionist movement were not religious and the Zionist
> movement is not about religion or return to a "promised land."
>
> *Not about borders* - Zionism was never about borders. Some Zionist
> programs envisioned a Jewish homeland outside of Palestine, some Zionists
> envisioned a bi-national state (the Mapam party) , while others
> ("Revisionists") insisted that the Jewish state must be established on
> both
> sides of the Jordan river, in the full territory of the British Mandate.
>
> *Not about taking from others or excluding others *- Though the history of
> Zionism quickly became entangled with Arab nationalist aspirations,
> Zionism
> was not about taking land from others or excluding others. The Zionist
> "colonial" project aimed to* buy* land in Palestine, *not to conquer it by
> force*. See The Occupation, Palestinians, Israel and Zionism )
> <http://www.zionism-israel.com/occupation_zionism.htm>
>
> *Not about militarism* - Though the history of Israel and Jewish
> settlement
> in Palestine often seems like one long war with interruptions, most
> Zionists were not militarists. They believed that their cause would
> triumph
> by moral force alone. An early Zionist argued:
>
> We shall never possess cannons, even if the goyim shall bear arms against
> one another for ever. Therefore, we cannot but settle in our land fairly
> and justly, to live and let live. "
> *(Meir Dizengoff (writing as "Dromi") "The Workers Question," Hatzvi,
> September 21, 22, 1909)*
> Is Zionism about finding a refuge from Anti-Semitism?
>
> The online reference Answers.com (http://www.answers.com/topic/zionism
> <http://www.answers.com/topic/zionism>) has this definition of Zionism:
>
> A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to
> growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in
> Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of
> the state of Israel.
>
> The definition seems innocent, but it is loaded with assumptions and
> questionable historical assertions. Among Jews, the modern Zionist idea
> first began to take shape in the first part of the 19th century among the
> Proto-Zionists <http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Proto-Zionists.htm> and
> was a response to the challenge of rise of nationalism, the enlightenment
> and the emancipation of the Jews, which threatened to make the Jewish
> adaptation to Diaspora life obsolete. The Chovevei Tzion
> <http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Chovevei_Tzion.htm> groups who studied
> Hebrew and set up Hebrew schools in Russia were not doing so in order to
> escape anti-Semitism, but rather to bring about a national revival that
> would enable Judaism to adapt to the modern secular nation-state.
> Anti-Semitic persecutions provided a motive that helped popularize
> Zionism,
> but they could not, in themselves have been responsible for the Zionist
> ideology. The major reaction to anti-Semitic persecutions in Europe was
> emigration to the United States, not Zionism. The idea that the ancient
> land of Israel might be a refugee shelter for persecuted Jews captivated
> many American Jews such as Emma Lazarus. It is interesting that Lazarus
> and
> others did not think of going to the land of Israel themselves, nor, on
> the
> other hand, did it occur to them that the Jews of Europe might be rescued
> by bringing them to the United States. The latter idea did occur to
> Mordecai
> Manuel Noah <http://www.zionism-israel.com/bio/Mordecai_Manuel_Noah.htm>,
> but he viewed his US project as only a temporary shelter, until the Jews
> could return to Zion. Unfortunately, the idea of Zionism as a refugee
> salvage operation opens Israel and Zionism to Arab criticism that they are
> not at fault for the sins of Europe, which cannot be repaired at the
> expense of the Arabs.
> Are You a Zionist?
>
> Everyone has to decide for themselves if they are a Zionist. If you
> believe that the Jews are a people, and support the right of the Jews to a
> national home, and you are willing to stand up for that right when it is
> challenged, then you can call yourself a Zionist, whether or not you
> belong
> to any organized Zionist group or accept any "official" definition, and
> whether or not you live in Israel or plan to live in Israel - and whether
> or not you are Jewish.
>
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 5:54:28 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
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> The Gov’t Safety Device That Kills You
> <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/3565965e888d37e7?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:27AM -0500
>
>
> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/06/jerry-reynolds/govt-safety-device-kills/
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> [grendelreport] Strange
> <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/bca168fcd10a77c9?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:26AM -0500
>
> https://twitter.com/GaetaSusan/status/738365655532097536
>
> [image: Cj8zpdMWkAAz2Vy]
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> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:25AM -0500
>
> *Quote of the day:*
>
>
>
>
> *“It’s good to see that a country that’s $20 trillion in debt and onthe
> verge of financial collapse is spending countless millions ofdollars to
> change pictures on money to make people, who don’t earn any money, happy.”*
>
>
>
> *Dennis F. Hyde*
>
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> The Startling Truth About How Working Families Are Truly Faring In This
> Economy
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> Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 03 06:24AM -0500
>
> The Startling Truth About How Working Families Are Truly Faring In This
> Economy <http://endoftheamericandream.com>
> ------------------------------
>
> The Startling Truth About How Working Families Are Truly Faring In This
> Economy
> <
> http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-startling-truth-about-how-working-families-are-being-destroyed-by-this-economy
> >
>
> Posted: 01 Jun 2016 05:35 PM PDT
>
> [image: Family Photo - Public Domain]
> <
> http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-startling-truth-about-how-working-families-are-being-destroyed-by-this-economy/family-photo-public-domain
> >It
> is hard to live the American Dream when the deck is stacked against you.
> Our politicians stood idly by as millions of good paying jobs were shipped
> overseas, our economic infrastructure was absolutely gutted and multitudes
> of small businesses were choked to death by miles of red tape. Now, we are
> reaping the consequences. In America today, nobody has a job in one out of
> every five families
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/in-1-out-of-every-5-american-families-nobody-has-a-job
> >,
> and there are more than 100 million working age Americans
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/23-percent-of-americans-in-their-prime-working-years-are-unemployed
> >
> that are currency not working. And thanks to our transition to a “service
> economy”, many of those that are actually working are deeply struggling
> too. According to the Social Security Administration, 51 percent
> <
> http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/51-percent-of-all-american-workers-make-less-than-30000-dollars-a-year
> >
> of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year. And the Federal
> Reserve says that 47 percent
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/47-percent-of-americans-cannot-even-come-up-with-400-to-cover-an-emergency-room-visit
> >
> of all Americans could not pay an unexpected $400 emergency room bill
> without borrowing the money from somewhere or selling something. That
> means that about half the country is flat broke, and things get even more
> precarious for working families with each passing day.
>
> Of course the plight of working families is not something that is new.
> Back in the 1950s and 1960s, wages and salaries earned by workers accounted
> for around half of all gross domestic income. But since 1970 there has
> been a precipitous decline, and during the Obama administration we hit an
> all-time low. In other words, the share of the pie being enjoyed by
> working families just keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
>
> [image: Share Of Gross Domestic Income] <http://amzn.to/1XhYXvc>
>
> All over the country, median incomes have been falling for years. This is
> putting an incredible amount of financial stress on working families, and
> we have seen poverty grow explosively
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/21-facts-about-the-explosive-growth-of-poverty-in-america-that-will-blow-your-mind
> >
> in the United States during the last couple presidential administrations.
> According to one study, median incomes have fallen in over 80 percent
> <http://moneyweek.com/the-end-of-the-american-dream/> of the major
> metropolitan areas in this nation since the year 2000…
>
> A major new analysis of income in America published by Pew earlier this
> month found that *more than 80% of the country’s 229 metropolitan areas
> have seen real (inflation-adjusted) incomes fall steadily since the start
> of this century*. Some of the steepest declines in median incomes have been
> seen in cities hit by industrial decline – for example a 27% drop in
> Springfield, Ohio and 18% in the conurbation that includes Detroit. But,
> ominously, even fast expanding success stories have seen incomes falling.
>
> The area around Denver, Colorado, has seen its population grow by 600,000
> since 1999, but its median income has fallen from $83,500 to less than
> $76,000. Similarly Raleigh, North Carolina, is a fast-growing city buoyed
> by a cluster of research universities and biotech firms; the population has
> shot up from 800,000 to 1.3 million this century. Yet its middle class has
> shrunk from 55% of the population to 50%, and median incomes have fallen by
> more than $11,000 to about $74,000.
>
> Once upon a time, the middle class was a solid majority in this country.
>
> In fact, 61 percent of all Americans were considered to be middle class
> back in 1971.
>
> But now, the middle class in the United States is becoming a minority for
> the first time ever
> <
> http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2016/02/03/even-americans-cant-afford-the-american-dream
> >
> …
>
> “After more than four decades of serving as the nation’s economic majority,
> the American middle class is now matched in number by those in the economic
> tiers above and below it,” the Pew report said. “Since 1971, each decade
> has ended with a smaller share of adults living in middle-income households
> than at the beginning of the decade, and no single decade stands out as
> having triggered or hastened the decline in the middle.”
>
> One of the big things that is destroying the middle class is the death of
> entrepreneurship. For decades, small business creation was one of the
> primary engines that helped fuel the growth of the middle class, but in
> recent years small business creation has fallen to depressingly low levels
> <
> http://qz.com/690881/the-number-of-new-businesses-in-the-us-is-falling-off-a-cliff/
> >
> …
>
> Fewer new businesses were created in the last five years in the US than any
> period since at least 1980, according to a new analysis
> <http://eig.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/recoverygrowthreport.pdf> (pdf)
> by the Economic Innovation Group
> <
> http://eig.org/news/new-study-reveals-unprecedented-collapse-new-business-formation-economic-recovery
> >
> (EIG), a bipartisan advocacy group founded by the Silicon Valley
> entrepreneur Sean Parker and others. Businesses that did form are also far
> more concentrated than ever before: just 20 counties accounted for half of
> the country’s total new businesses. All of them were in large metro areas.
>
> “*It’s hard to put into scale the collapse of new business formation. We
> have no precedent for that rapid and steep of a collapse*,” said John
> Lettieri, co-author of the report and co-founder of EIG, in an interview.
> “It will have a ripple effect in the economy. You‘re going to feel that
> impact five, 10, and 15 years in the future.”
>
> Of course just about every other economic indicator shows the dramatic
> decline of the middle class as well. As you can see from this set of
> charts from Zero Hedge
> <
> http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/05/31/20160301_obama.jpg
> >,
> median family income, the labor force participation rate and the rate of
> homeownership are all way down over the last decade. Meanwhile, the U.S.
> national debt, the number of Americans on food stamps and healthcare costs
> are way up. Does that sound like a “healthy economy” to you?
>
> [image: Obama Economy - Zero Hedge]
> <
> http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-startling-truth-about-how-working-families-are-being-destroyed-by-this-economy/obama-economy-zero-hedge
> >
>
> Unfortunately, this is about as good as things are going to get. A major
> new economic downturn is already brewing
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/undeniable-evidence-that-the-real-economy-is-already-in-recession-mode
> >,
> and layoff announcements at major firms are running 24 percent higher this
> year
> <
> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/undeniable-evidence-that-the-real-economy-is-already-in-recession-mode
> >
> than they were last year.
>
> The America that most of us grew up in is dying, and what we have seen so
> far is just the tip of the iceberg. If you follow my work closely
> <http://amzn.to/1Y3lJpk>, then you already know that I believe that much,
> much worse is coming. But our leaders just continue on with business as
> usual. They keep doing the same things over and over again, but they keep
> expecting different results.
>
> What they are doing to “fix” things is not going to work, and that should
> be exceedingly apparent to everyone by now.
>
> We need to start valuing working families again, and that means encouraging
> the growth of small businesses and encouraging the creation of middle class
> jobs.
>
> Sadly, we have already entered the early stages of the next great economic
> crisis, and so things are going to get a whole lot worse for the working
> class before there is any chance of them getting better.
>
> **About the author: Michael Snyder is the founder and publisher of End Of
> The American Dream. Michael’s controversial new book about Bible prophecy
> entitled “The Rapture Verdict” is available in paperback
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> Amazon.com.**
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>
> Now this is scary.....the government using it's powers to silence free
> speech about a very controversial subject. .......and these bastards call
> themselves Liberal and I call them Fascist if they vote for such a
> measure. The
> government spends millions in trying to convince the people that Global
> Warming is real and man made and yet cannot explain the great ice ages and
> periodic warming with the melt backs that gave us the Great Lakes. Guess
> to
> many fires in the huts of Indians or heat warming the atmosphere leaking
> from the cave dwellers that caused those previous cycles of global
> warming......to much money to be made from all the government grants given
> to the Gore
> people.....until the government can explain all these previous
> cycles....till then it remains one of the governments biggest scams out
> there and now
> they are trying to silence anyone and everyone who may disagree with them.
> That's not knee jerk liberal THINKING that FASCISTS' LAW Making and
> Enforcement ......what if these fools are wrong? What a waste of money
> ......I
> betcha a dime to the dollar that some of these same people were the ones
> who
> a generation ago were screaming about global cooling.......Guess I had
> better shut up about this or those Fascist creeps will be knocking on my
> door
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