I agree Geoffrey.....It's sad; but at least in my lifetime, I believe that
it's been this way.....Remember Walter Cronkite's reports from Viet Nam?
Was there any media outlet that reported during the war who was
"Pro-American"?

This election cycle has been a real eye opener, especially with regard to
the alleged conservative news outlets.  FOX News has really been exposed.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:50 AM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I personally think that poll has been skewed by the way it was conducted.
> Since there aren't any objective news outlets most event reporting is at
> best mildly biased or propaganda.
> On Jun 19, 2016 10:34 AM, "Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I read a poll/survey this morning, (and I am not going to take the time
>> to go and hunt it up....You'll have to take my word for it!)  that only 29
>> percent of Democrats attributed the Orlando/Pulse shooting to Islamic
>> terrorism.....Most Democrats, and Secular Progressives believe that the
>> shooting was caused by, "LGBT hatred"; and our, "Gun Problem"......
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed Geoffrey!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:31 AM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed but under one scenario the msm doesn't give a shirt about white
>>>> rednecks and the other would bolster the points of the pro second amendment
>>>> crowd. Either way no news coverage.
>>>> On Jun 19, 2016 10:21 AM, "Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ​Had this taken place in a redneck bar in Mississippi, the casualty
>>>> rate would have been no more than two or three, including Omar himself as a
>>>> casualty.
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First of all there is no way to prevent another Orlando attack.
>>>>> Besides had it been carried out in a bar full of rednecks in Mississippi
>>>>> this wouldn't still be making news.
>>>>>   Terrorism is being used to justify the creation of a
>>>>> police/surveillance state in this country the article submitted by Travis
>>>>> only backs that up.we also have the Patriot act 1 and 2, NSA surveillance
>>>>> of electronic communications without a warrant, Suspension of habeas
>>>>> corpus, attacks on civil liberties and our bill of rights. I can go on and
>>>>> on. I will not quite quote Ben Franklin by saying those who are willing to
>>>>> sacrifice freedom for security will wind up with neither.
>>>>>   Secondly how many lives and resources are we going to waste with no
>>>>> results before we say enough is enough. Our middle east policy is a
>>>>> complete and total failure. We are once again bogged down in an endless
>>>>> quagmire much like viet nam. We don't have the will or the leadership to
>>>>> win a tactical conflict such as this. Killing the enemy before they get
>>>>> here is bush doctrine bullshit that hasn't worked. I guess we have been
>>>>> under the erroneous impression that these Muslims don't have the capacity
>>>>> to react or adapt to our tactics which     brings us back to we can't
>>>>> prevent another Orlando style attack.
>>>>> If you don't  want your house set on fire arsonist shouldn't be your
>>>>> invited guests.
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