Well shit! I was hoping for a good, calm match with Trump...to settle him a 
bit. even out the theater so to speak. The dems will make hay with this 
kind of stuff. Fuck!
Thank you for giving me a heads up. Yeah...I'm a believer ...but I don't 
want the government issuing laws because of it. Let them do what they 
want....then sort it out with God...IMO. 
I'm glad I never had to even think about that kind of decision for myself. 
But that's not saying it didn't touch my family .


On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> He is very much a religious/social conservative (which is why I don't 
> really care for him). 
>
> He signed that Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law then got blasted 
> by the national media and what we refer to as "the gay mafia", remember? 
> And all it did was to state that the government had to show a compelling 
> interest in order to restrict a citizen's ability to practice/follow their 
> religion:
>
> "Senate Bill 101 prohibits state or local governments from substantially 
> burdening a person's ability to exercise their religion — unless the 
> government can show that it has a compelling interest and that the action 
> is the least-restrictive means of achieving it. It takes effect July 1."
>
> I think it was radically distorted by the media and gay rights' groups. 
> But it would have stopped this nonsense of gays forcing people to be 
> involved in their wedding ceremonies (which I personally think is 
> unconstitutional - especially for the photographers and others who have to 
> physically attend a ceremony that contradicts their religion). This bill 
> would have told them that they just need to find any of the other 150 
> photographers in the city who would gladly attend and participate in their 
> ceremony.
>
> But the one that really did me in with Pence was a very restrictive 
> abortion bill he signed into law in March of this year:
>
> Last month, governor Mike Pence signed into law House Enrolled Act 1337, 
> which added new provisions to Indiana’s existing abortion laws. Among other 
> things, the new law prohibits abortions obtained on the basis of “race, 
> color, national origin, ancestry, sex, or diagnosis or potential diagnosis 
> of the fetus having Down syndrome or any other disability”; it augments the 
> “informed consent” provisions currently on the books by adding new 
> information to that which a facility must provide to a woman seeking an 
> abortion; and it adds a requirement that fetal remains from a miscarriage 
> or abortion be cremated or interred. 
>
> It’s primarily that last measure that has prompted “Periods for Pence,” 
> which is swamping the governor’s office with phone calls informing him 
> about each caller’s reproductive cycle. The creator of the “Periods for 
> Pence” Facebook page has been transcribing her calls: 
>
> Me: “I need to get a message to the Governor that I am on day three of my 
> period. My flow seems abnormally heavy, but my cramps are much better to–” 
>
> Them: (seriously annoyed and trying to keep their voice down, but not 
> quite succeeding) MA’AM, WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN HELP YOU WITH? 
>
> Me: Oh, I don’t need your help, I just wanted to keep Governor Pence 
> informed of my reproductive cycle, since he seems so concerned.
>
> Read more at: 
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433879/mike-pence-abortion-law
>
> Think about this. That means a woman who learns she has a severely 
> deformed fetus (including one with anencephaly or no brain that will die 
> either in the womb or within minutes or hours after being born) would have 
> been forced to carry the baby to term only to watch it die. Sorry, but 
> that's simply barbaric!
>
> I had to laugh at some of the stuff on their FB page "periods for pence".  
> IMO he deserved it. I mean, requiring a woman to bury a miscarried baby? 
> Thankfully our state Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional the day 
> before it was to take effect.
>
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:30:48 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I had to call family in Indiana to find out a what they thought of Pence. 
>> My brother in law said he was pretty conservative fiscally...but he also 
>> said he wasn't a social conservative...and I'm hearing differently. What do 
>> you think of him Perp?
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:56:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The deadline for Pence to withdraw from the governor's race is tomorrow 
>>> (the Star is saying he already has). Then, a committee of 22 republicans 
>>> have 30 days to name his replacement on the ballot for November. That means 
>>> whoever does get the nod then has 2.5 months to campaign before the vote in 
>>> November.
>>>
>>> Second, the three people being mentioned for Pence's replacement are US 
>>> Representative Susan Brooks, US Representative Todd Rokita (both of whom 
>>> have made preparations to remove themselves from ballots and run for 
>>> governor instead) and the current Lt. Governor Eric Holcomb - who was named 
>>> as a replacement in March of this year when the previous Lt. Governor 
>>> resigned.
>>>
>>> So that throws 2 of the House races here into disarray and in need of 
>>> replacement candidates too.
>>>
>>> To top it off, former democrat representative Baron HIll, who was set to 
>>> run for our US Senate seat vacated by republican Dan Coats, has withdrawn 
>>> his bid and former governor and US Senator Evan Bayh will be running 
>>> against republican Todd Young, who is currently serving his second term as 
>>> a US representative - thus leaving yet another congressional district with 
>>> no incumbent.
>>>
>>> I've never seen such upheaval at one time in my life! This state is 
>>> going to be as fun to watch as the national elections for once.
>>>
>>> For the record, I'd like to see Susan Brooks win the governorship and 
>>> Todd Young in the Senate. I voted for democrat Evan Bayh twice as governor 
>>> and twice as senator - as he used to be a very moderate/conservative 
>>> democrat, but then in his second term veered far left right alongside 
>>> Hillary during the 2008 presidential campaign (he was widely touted as a 
>>> potential running mate for her when everyone thought she would win the 
>>> nomination). Bayh and Clinton were among the 2 dozen leftwing democrats to 
>>> oppose the nominations of two highly qualified SC justices (Roberts and 
>>> Alito) and then turn around and vote to appoint the least qualified and 
>>> most radical one ever nominated - Sonia Sotomayor.
>>>
>>> Should be interesting. Bayh has the huge advantage (having been 
>>> governor), but it will depend on how many recall that he sadly became such 
>>> a partisan hack before leaving the Senate to become a lobbyist.
>>>
>>

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