Of course I wrote it; where have you been? Nothing I said there is anything I've not said before.
As far as being forced to "work at a wedding", that is precisely what the State of New Mexico decided a Christian photographer should be forced to do when she didn't want to photograph a gay wedding. And when she didn't, she was fined thousands of dollars. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/us/weighing-free-speech-in-refusal-to-photograph-ceremony.html?_r=0 Let me put it in terms you would better understand. It would mean that if you made a living being a musician, you could be forced to play at a zionist wedding. You'd have to be ok with that to be against that photographer not wanting to photograph a gay wedding - and I rather doubt you're ok with that! That's really odd that you thought I was a religious conservative plainol, lol. Far from it. Though I do think their rights are being horribly trampled by the gays with these bs lawsuits forcing them to participate in their freaking weddings. The ones screaming for tolerance from others are the least tolerant; go figure. On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-4, plainolamerican wrote: > > He is very much a religious/social conservative (which is why I don't > really care for him). > --- > I apologize ... I wrote somewhere recently that you were a religious > conservative. > > He signed that Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law then got blasted > by the national media and what we refer to as "the gay mafia", remember? > And all it did was to state that the government had to show a compelling > interest in order to restrict a citizen's ability to practice/follow their > religion: > "Senate Bill 101 prohibits state or local governments from substantially > burdening a person's ability to exercise their religion — unless the > government can show that it has a compelling interest and that the action > is the least-restrictive means of achieving it. It takes effect July 1." > --- > what does a religious person do that would be considered 'practicing their > religion' that would concern the government? > > I think it was radically distorted by the media and gay rights' groups. > But it would have stopped this nonsense of gays forcing people to be > involved in their wedding ceremonies (which I personally think is > unconstitutional - especially for the photographers and others who have to > physically attend a ceremony that contradicts their religion). This bill > would have told them that they just need to find any of the other 150 > photographers in the city who would gladly attend and participate in their > ceremony. > > But the one that really did me in with Pence was a very restrictive > abortion bill he signed into law in March of this year: > --- > WOW!!! > did you really write this? > I agree ... nobody should be forced to 'work' a wedding .... as long as > they aren't refusing to service someone because of their sexuality. > and abortions must remain legal for everyone equally. > > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:56:07 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >> >> >> He is very much a religious/social conservative (which is why I don't >> really care for him). >> >> He signed that Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law then got >> blasted by the national media and what we refer to as "the gay mafia", >> remember? And all it did was to state that the government had to show a >> compelling interest in order to restrict a citizen's ability to >> practice/follow their religion: >> >> "Senate Bill 101 prohibits state or local governments from substantially >> burdening a person's ability to exercise their religion — unless the >> government can show that it has a compelling interest and that the action >> is the least-restrictive means of achieving it. It takes effect July 1." >> >> I think it was radically distorted by the media and gay rights' groups. >> But it would have stopped this nonsense of gays forcing people to be >> involved in their wedding ceremonies (which I personally think is >> unconstitutional - especially for the photographers and others who have to >> physically attend a ceremony that contradicts their religion). This bill >> would have told them that they just need to find any of the other 150 >> photographers in the city who would gladly attend and participate in their >> ceremony. >> >> But the one that really did me in with Pence was a very restrictive >> abortion bill he signed into law in March of this year: >> >> Last month, governor Mike Pence signed into law House Enrolled Act 1337, >> which added new provisions to Indiana’s existing abortion laws. Among other >> things, the new law prohibits abortions obtained on the basis of “race, >> color, national origin, ancestry, sex, or diagnosis or potential diagnosis >> of the fetus having Down syndrome or any other disability”; it augments the >> “informed consent” provisions currently on the books by adding new >> information to that which a facility must provide to a woman seeking an >> abortion; and it adds a requirement that fetal remains from a miscarriage >> or abortion be cremated or interred. >> >> It’s primarily that last measure that has prompted “Periods for Pence,” >> which is swamping the governor’s office with phone calls informing him >> about each caller’s reproductive cycle. The creator of the “Periods for >> Pence” Facebook page has been transcribing her calls: >> >> Me: “I need to get a message to the Governor that I am on day three of my >> period. My flow seems abnormally heavy, but my cramps are much better to–” >> >> Them: (seriously annoyed and trying to keep their voice down, but not >> quite succeeding) MA’AM, WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN HELP YOU WITH? >> >> Me: Oh, I don’t need your help, I just wanted to keep Governor Pence >> informed of my reproductive cycle, since he seems so concerned. >> >> Read more at: >> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433879/mike-pence-abortion-law >> >> Think about this. That means a woman who learns she has a severely >> deformed fetus (including one with anencephaly or no brain that will die >> either in the womb or within minutes or hours after being born) would have >> been forced to carry the baby to term only to watch it die. Sorry, but >> that's simply barbaric! >> >> I had to laugh at some of the stuff on their FB page "periods for >> pence". IMO he deserved it. I mean, requiring a woman to bury a miscarried >> baby? Thankfully our state Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional the >> day before it was to take effect. >> >> >> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:30:48 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote: >>> >>> I had to call family in Indiana to find out a what they thought of >>> Pence. My brother in law said he was pretty conservative fiscally...but he >>> also said he wasn't a social conservative...and I'm hearing differently. >>> What do you think of him Perp? >>> >>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:56:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The deadline for Pence to withdraw from the governor's race is tomorrow >>>> (the Star is saying he already has). Then, a committee of 22 republicans >>>> have 30 days to name his replacement on the ballot for November. That >>>> means >>>> whoever does get the nod then has 2.5 months to campaign before the vote >>>> in >>>> November. >>>> >>>> Second, the three people being mentioned for Pence's replacement are US >>>> Representative Susan Brooks, US Representative Todd Rokita (both of whom >>>> have made preparations to remove themselves from ballots and run for >>>> governor instead) and the current Lt. Governor Eric Holcomb - who was >>>> named >>>> as a replacement in March of this year when the previous Lt. Governor >>>> resigned. >>>> >>>> So that throws 2 of the House races here into disarray and in need of >>>> replacement candidates too. >>>> >>>> To top it off, former democrat representative Baron HIll, who was set >>>> to run for our US Senate seat vacated by republican Dan Coats, has >>>> withdrawn his bid and former governor and US Senator Evan Bayh will be >>>> running against republican Todd Young, who is currently serving his second >>>> term as a US representative - thus leaving yet another congressional >>>> district with no incumbent. >>>> >>>> I've never seen such upheaval at one time in my life! This state is >>>> going to be as fun to watch as the national elections for once. >>>> >>>> For the record, I'd like to see Susan Brooks win the governorship and >>>> Todd Young in the Senate. I voted for democrat Evan Bayh twice as governor >>>> and twice as senator - as he used to be a very moderate/conservative >>>> democrat, but then in his second term veered far left right alongside >>>> Hillary during the 2008 presidential campaign (he was widely touted as a >>>> potential running mate for her when everyone thought she would win the >>>> nomination). Bayh and Clinton were among the 2 dozen leftwing democrats to >>>> oppose the nominations of two highly qualified SC justices (Roberts and >>>> Alito) and then turn around and vote to appoint the least qualified and >>>> most radical one ever nominated - Sonia Sotomayor. >>>> >>>> Should be interesting. Bayh has the huge advantage (having been >>>> governor), but it will depend on how many recall that he sadly became such >>>> a partisan hack before leaving the Senate to become a lobbyist. >>>> >>> -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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