Again how can it be a vote for Hillary when my Democrat friends claim it's a vote for Trump!!! It's a vote for a different person than the two who I despise!!!
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > It is Brine. > > There's only two viable candidates in this year's election. Period. If > you don't vote for Donald Trump, (whether you like him, or don't like > him!) You are supporting the opposing candidate: Hil Clinton. Period. > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Voting for anyone but Trump is not voting for Hillary, just like voting >> for anyone but Hillary is not a vote for trump ... the zealots on both >> sides are using the same argument!!! I will not vote for either!!! >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't know what posting a liberal biased web page from a known, >>> documented verified as unreliable fact checking organization by the very >>> liberal Tampa Bay Times has to do with anything.....Trump's products are >>> made overseas. So? >>> >>> That's but one reason we should vote to break the current >>> elitist/globalist heirarchy by electing Donald Trump! >>> >>> With regard to your voting for Hil Clinton....Make no mistake, you are: >>> >>> >>> Dennis Miller to #NeverTrumpers: Don’t Kid Yourself, At This Point, Any >>> Vote for Anyone That is Not Trump Is a Vote for Hillary >>> >>> Jim Hoft <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/jim-hoft/> May 9th, >>> 2016 6:06 pm 126 Comments >>> <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/#disqus_thread> >>> [image: dennis miller rubio] >>> >>> Actor-comedian Dennis Miller is going after the #NeverTrumpers. >>> >>> Don’t kid yourself. At this point, any vote for anyone that is not >>> Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton. Also, both Presidential >>> boxes left blank is a vote for Hillary Clinton because as mindless as >>> Liberals can be even they don’t enter into suicide pacts with that >>> petulant, whiny part of themselves. As that is your wont, fine…do it! But >>> don’t bullshit yourself. You’re electing Hillary Clinton because you want >>> to elect Hillary Clinton. >>> >>> Dennis posted this on Facebook this afternoon: >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:44 PM, plainolamerican < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> jerry doesn't care if you're a butch lesbian but your preacher might. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:56:03 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey plain ole I'm a butch lesbian trapped in a man's body you think >>>>> Jerry will let me on the show hell I'll even bring my wife............. >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 12:41 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And just who is your flavor of asshole voting for? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:29:13 PM UTC-4, plainolamerican >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All of these examples, (besides being depressing) are every reason >>>>>>> for each and every American to vote for Donald Trump in November! >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> only ignorant jerry springer americans and fellow assholes will vote >>>>>>> for trump. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:06:52 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All of these examples, (besides being depressing) are every reason >>>>>>>> for each and every American to vote for Donald Trump in November! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As "The Donald" said; "What do you have to lose?" Trump promises >>>>>>>> to reverse this trend, and re-install/re-invent America's and >>>>>>>> American's >>>>>>>> "Greatness! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:02 PM, geoffrey theist < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Plain ole you'll think this is very bad >>>>>>>>> VOTE FOR TRUMP LOL!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 10:58 AM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> very good! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: Image result for cheap American workers] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 10:39:06 AM UTC-5, gtheist957 >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's cheaper to lower the standard of living for >>>>>>>>>>> American workers when they reach the level of say India and Mexico, >>>>>>>>>>> American corporations will be patriotic once again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 6:59 AM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreign Graduates, Fires 300 American >>>>>>>>>>>> Professionals >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> of course .... profits are paramount. >>>>>>>>>>>> it's obviously cheaper than educating Americans. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 11:33:59 PM UTC-5, Perplexed >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here we go again.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar is firing 300 American employees in Mossville, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Illinois, even though it is continuing to recruit and pay >>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign “H-1B” guest-workers to do the white-collar jobs sought >>>>>>>>>>>>> by American >>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals in the United States. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar’s combination of white-collars layoffs and H-1B >>>>>>>>>>>>> outsourcing matches the much-criticized decision by Carrier, a >>>>>>>>>>>>> company in >>>>>>>>>>>>> next-door Indiana, to outsource 1,400 blue-collar factory jobs to >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Outsider GOP candidate Donald Trump has vigorously denounced >>>>>>>>>>>>> the outsourcing by Carrier’s air-conditioning business. His >>>>>>>>>>>>> opposition has >>>>>>>>>>>>> helped him get a nine-point polling advantage in the state. But >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump’s >>>>>>>>>>>>> support for major reforms to the H-1B program >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/08/18/donald-trump-aligns-with-iowas-chuck-grassley-on-h-1b-visa-reform/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the outsourcing of professional jobs is raising his >>>>>>>>>>>>> support among >>>>>>>>>>>>> upper-income professional-class voters in many other states. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Caterpillar outsourcing “is all the same thing happening >>>>>>>>>>>>> over and over again,’ said John Miano, a lawyer and software >>>>>>>>>>>>> expert who has >>>>>>>>>>>>> sued the federal government to reduce or stop various outsourcing >>>>>>>>>>>>> programs, >>>>>>>>>>>>> such as the H-1B visa. “What we see is that companies ask for >>>>>>>>>>>>> more [H-1B visas] while they’re laying off the same kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>> [American >>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals] … this is going to be an election that decides >>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this >>>>>>>>>>>>> continues,” Miano said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Early in 2016, Caterpillar asked the federal government for 71 >>>>>>>>>>>>> H-1B visas needed to hire foreign white-collar college-grads. At >>>>>>>>>>>>> least 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the requested H-1B visas are for engineers and other skilled >>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals in Mossville, which is suffering the most layoffs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> At least 44 of the visas requested in 2016 are for foreign >>>>>>>>>>>>> graduates who are already working at Caterpillar in the United >>>>>>>>>>>>> States. >>>>>>>>>>>>> These “continuation” visas are automatically approved, and do not >>>>>>>>>>>>> count >>>>>>>>>>>>> against the much touted annual limits on H1-B visas. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 22 of Caterpillar’s visas are for new hires. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since 2012, Caterpillar has requested 768 visas for H-1B >>>>>>>>>>>>> workers. Roughly speaking, companies get one-fifth of the H-1B >>>>>>>>>>>>> visas they >>>>>>>>>>>>> request, suggesting the company has outsourced at least 100 >>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S.-based jobs >>>>>>>>>>>>> to lower-wage foreign graduates. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The visa allows the H-1B workers to stay for at least three >>>>>>>>>>>>> years, and some manage to stay permanently. For example, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company has also helped get green cards — the precursor to >>>>>>>>>>>>> citizenship — >>>>>>>>>>>>> for roughly 70 foreign college graduates. Most of these green card >>>>>>>>>>>>> employees have replaced Americans software graduates. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2016-09-06 at 3.55.50 PM] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-3.55.50-PM.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar has not responded to emails from Breitbart. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> While Trump has promised to reform the controversial H-1B >>>>>>>>>>>>> program <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> as part of >>>>>>>>>>>>> his plan to ensure that immigration law helps Americans before >>>>>>>>>>>>> companies or >>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign workers, Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the H-1B program >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/28/graduates-staple-green-cards-hillary-clinton/>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and her foundation has tried to hire more than 130 foreign >>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/10/clinton-foundation-hires-h-1b-guest-workers-in-place-of-american-graduates/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> place of young Americans. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That political difference over white-collar outsourcing may >>>>>>>>>>>>> become critical in the new few weeks when Trump tries to raise >>>>>>>>>>>>> his support >>>>>>>>>>>>> among college graduates. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is already doing well among blue-collar families, party >>>>>>>>>>>>> because of his promise to start enforcing existing laws that bar >>>>>>>>>>>>> the hiring >>>>>>>>>>>>> of illegals. But Trump is doing poorly among >>>>>>>>>>>>> college-graduates, partly because few white-collar workers yet >>>>>>>>>>>>> recognize the >>>>>>>>>>>>> pocketbook impact to them of federal immigration practices >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/21/moodys-trump-immigration-labor-reform/>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer still know that states are also allowing illegal >>>>>>>>>>>>> immigrants to work in professional jobs >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/18/new-york-allow-illegals-teach-practice-medicine-obtain-professional-licenses/>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> American professionals prefer to ignore the threat from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> government’s H-1B program, said Miano. “They all all think >>>>>>>>>>>>> ‘I’m good… if I keep up my skills, I don’t have anything to worry >>>>>>>>>>>>> about’ — >>>>>>>>>>>>> but they don’t know these [hiring] decisions are being made by >>>>>>>>>>>>> accountants >>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no idea what their skills are,” he said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That outsourcing process is a huge threat to the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is “cutting off the ability of people to rise up,” >>>>>>>>>>>>> he said. “The whole thing of the middle class is to send your >>>>>>>>>>>>> kids to >>>>>>>>>>>>> college, get professional jobs and move up — but now that is being >>>>>>>>>>>>> destroyed” by outsourcing, Miano said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Many companies outsource U.S. white collar jobs to foreign >>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals — Disney >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=disney>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> DeLoitte >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=deloitte>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> many hospitals >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=hospital>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook, Intel >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/21/intel-lays-off-12k-looking-import-11600-foreign-workers-since-2010/>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Qualcomm, Microsoft, plus many smaller companies, such as the Toys >>>>>>>>>>>>> R Us retailer, Cengage publishing firm, and New York Life >>>>>>>>>>>>> insurance company >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.epi.org/blog/h-1b-outsourcing-visa-ship-american-jobs-overseas/>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The scale and details of the outsourcing movement can be tracked >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> websites, including MyVisaJobs.com <http://myvisajobs.com>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Virgil Bierschwale, a displaced software expert, has posted >>>>>>>>>>>>> details >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the H-1B program <http://h1bhuntinglicenses.com/About> and maps >>>>>>>>>>>>> showing <http://h1bhuntinglicenses.com/DashBoard> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> locations and employer contacts for H-1B requests. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Much of the 2016 H-1B outsourcing at Caterpillar is for >>>>>>>>>>>>> engineering jobs held by Americans. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-4.14.26-PM.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2016-09-06 at 4.14.26 PM] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-4.14.26-PM.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Commercial job search boards show many Americans are qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> for those jobs. 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