​Good Morning Brine!

As stated, there are only two, viable candidates.  Period.  You can vote
for either one or the other, Period.  A non-vote, is a vote for Hill
Clinton (in my opinion); as she represents the Establishment which needs to
be broken.

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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:

> Again how can it be a vote for Hillary when my Democrat friends claim it's
> a vote for Trump!!! It's a vote for a different person than the two who I
> despise!!!
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It is Brine.
>>
>> There's only two viable candidates in this year's election.  Period.  If
>> you don't vote for Donald Trump,  (whether you like him, or don't like
>> him!)  You are supporting the opposing candidate:  Hil Clinton.  Period.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Voting for anyone but Trump is not voting for Hillary, just like voting
>>> for anyone but Hillary is not a vote for trump ... the zealots on both
>>> sides are using the same argument!!! I will not vote for either!!!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know what posting a liberal biased web page from a known,
>>>> documented verified as unreliable fact checking organization by the very
>>>> liberal Tampa Bay Times has to do with anything.....Trump's products are
>>>> made overseas.   So?
>>>>
>>>> That's but one reason we should vote to break the current
>>>> elitist/globalist heirarchy by electing Donald Trump!
>>>>
>>>> With regard to your voting for Hil Clinton....Make no mistake, you are:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Miller to #NeverTrumpers: Don’t Kid Yourself, At This Point, Any
>>>> Vote for Anyone That is Not Trump Is a Vote for Hillary
>>>>
>>>> Jim Hoft <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/jim-hoft/> May 9th,
>>>> 2016 6:06 pm 126 Comments
>>>> <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/#disqus_thread>
>>>> [image: dennis miller rubio]
>>>>
>>>> Actor-comedian Dennis Miller is going after the #NeverTrumpers.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t kid yourself. At this point, any vote for anyone that is not
>>>> Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton. Also, both Presidential
>>>> boxes left blank is a vote for Hillary Clinton because as mindless as
>>>> Liberals can be even they don’t enter into suicide pacts with that
>>>> petulant, whiny part of themselves. As that is your wont, fine…do it! But
>>>> don’t bullshit yourself. You’re electing Hillary Clinton because you want
>>>> to elect Hillary Clinton.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis posted this on Facebook this afternoon:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:44 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> jerry doesn't care if you're a butch lesbian but your preacher might.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:56:03 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey plain ole I'm a butch lesbian trapped in a man's body you think
>>>>>> Jerry will let me on the show hell I'll even bring my wife.............
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 12:41 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And just who is your flavor of asshole voting for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 12:29:13 PM UTC-4,
>>>>>>> plainolamerican wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All of these examples, (besides being depressing) are every reason
>>>>>>>> for each and every American to vote for Donald Trump in November!
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> only ignorant jerry springer americans and fellow assholes will
>>>>>>>> vote for trump.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:06:52 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All of these examples, (besides being depressing) are every reason
>>>>>>>>> for each and every American to vote for Donald Trump in November!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As "The Donald" said;  "What do you have to lose?"   Trump
>>>>>>>>> promises to reverse this trend, and re-install/re-invent America's and
>>>>>>>>> American's "Greatness!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:02 PM, geoffrey theist <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Plain ole you'll think this is very bad
>>>>>>>>>> VOTE FOR TRUMP LOL!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 10:58 AM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Image result for cheap American workers]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 10:39:06 AM UTC-5, gtheist957
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it's cheaper to lower the standard of living for
>>>>>>>>>>>> American workers when they reach the level of say India and Mexico,
>>>>>>>>>>>> American corporations will be patriotic once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016 6:59 AM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar Hires H-1B Foreign Graduates, Fires 300 American
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professionals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course .... profits are paramount.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's obviously cheaper than educating Americans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 11:33:59 PM UTC-5, Perplexed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here we go again....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar is firing 300 American employees in Mossville,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Illinois, even though it is continuing to recruit and pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign “H-1B” guest-workers to do the white-collar jobs sought 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals in the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar’s combination of white-collars layoffs and H-1B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outsourcing matches the much-criticized decision by Carrier, a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next-door Indiana, to outsource 1,400 blue-collar factory jobs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Mexico.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outsider GOP candidate Donald Trump has vigorously denounced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the outsourcing by Carrier’s air-conditioning business. His 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposition has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helped him get a nine-point polling advantage in the state. But 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for major reforms to the H-1B program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/08/18/donald-trump-aligns-with-iowas-chuck-grassley-on-h-1b-visa-reform/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the outsourcing of professional jobs is raising his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upper-income professional-class voters in many other states.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Caterpillar outsourcing “is all the same thing happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over and over again,’ said John Miano, a lawyer and software 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert who has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sued the federal government to reduce or stop various 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outsourcing programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as the H-1B visa. “What we see is that companies ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for more [H-1B visas] while they’re laying off the same kind of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals] … this is going to be an election that decides 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues,” Miano said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Early in 2016, Caterpillar asked the federal government for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 71 H-1B visas needed to hire foreign white-collar college-grads. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30 of the requested H-1B visas are for engineers and other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals in Mossville, which is suffering the most layoffs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least 44 of the visas requested in 2016 are for foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduates who are already working at Caterpillar in the United 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These “continuation” visas are automatically approved, and do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not count
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the much touted annual limits on H1-B visas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 22 of Caterpillar’s visas are for new hires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since 2012, Caterpillar has requested 768 visas for H-1B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workers. Roughly speaking, companies get one-fifth of the H-1B 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visas they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request, suggesting the company has outsourced at least 100 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S.-based jobs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to lower-wage foreign graduates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The visa allows the H-1B workers to stay for at least three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years, and some manage to stay permanently. For example, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company has also helped get green cards — the precursor to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizenship —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for roughly 70 foreign college graduates. Most of these green 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employees have replaced Americans software graduates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2016-09-06 at 3.55.50 PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-3.55.50-PM.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caterpillar has not responded to emails from Breitbart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While Trump has promised to reform the controversial H-1B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> as part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his plan to ensure that immigration law helps Americans before 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign workers, Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the H-1B program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/28/graduates-staple-green-cards-hillary-clinton/>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and her foundation has tried to hire more than 130 foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/10/clinton-foundation-hires-h-1b-guest-workers-in-place-of-american-graduates/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place of young Americans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That political difference over white-collar outsourcing may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become critical in the new few weeks when Trump tries to raise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among college graduates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is already doing well among blue-collar families, party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of his promise to start enforcing existing laws that bar 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hiring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of illegals. But Trump is doing poorly among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> college-graduates, partly because few white-collar workers yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognize the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocketbook impact to them of federal immigration practices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/21/moodys-trump-immigration-labor-reform/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fewer still know that states are also allowing illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigrants to work in professional jobs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/18/new-york-allow-illegals-teach-practice-medicine-obtain-professional-licenses/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American professionals prefer to ignore the threat from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government’s H-1B program, said Miano. “They all all think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ‘I’m good… if I keep up my skills, I don’t have anything to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry about’ —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they don’t know these [hiring] decisions are being made by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no idea what their skills are,” he said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That outsourcing process is a huge threat to the middle class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is “cutting off the ability of people to rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up,” he said. “The whole thing of the middle class is to send 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> college, get professional jobs and move up — but now that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroyed” by outsourcing, Miano said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many companies outsource U.S. white collar jobs to foreign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals — Disney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=disney>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DeLoitte
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=deloitte>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many hospitals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.myvisajobs.com/Search_Visa_Sponsor.aspx?N=hospital>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook, Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/21/intel-lays-off-12k-looking-import-11600-foreign-workers-since-2010/>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Qualcomm, Microsoft, plus many smaller companies, such as the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R Us retailer, Cengage publishing firm, and New York Life 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insurance company
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.epi.org/blog/h-1b-outsourcing-visa-ship-american-jobs-overseas/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The scale and details of the outsourcing movement can be tracked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites, including MyVisaJobs.com <http://myvisajobs.com>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virgil Bierschwale, a displaced software expert, has posted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the H-1B program <http://h1bhuntinglicenses.com/About>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maps showing <http://h1bhuntinglicenses.com/DashBoard>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the locations and employer contacts for H-1B requests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Much of the 2016 H-1B outsourcing at Caterpillar is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineering jobs held by Americans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-4.14.26-PM.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2016-09-06 at 4.14.26 PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-06-at-4.14.26-PM.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commercial job search boards show many Americans are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qualified for those jobs. Indeed.com, for example, offers the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resumes of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2,445 engineers within a 25-mile distance of Mossville, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently posted resumes of Caterpillar’s soon-to-be-outsourced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/06/c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aterpillar-hires-h-1b-foreign-graduates-fires-300-american-p
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rofessionals/
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