Who do you normally vote for - dems, repubs, or libertarians? On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 8:44:03 AM UTC-4, brine wrote: > > I can never vote for Trump, have hated him personally since the 80s ... > Hillary, I have only hated since the 90s ... I refuse to vote for either > and just last night I was at an opening and my ultra liberal friend claimed > that by voting for Gary Johnson, who I know has no fuckin' chance in hell, > is voting for Trump!!! I see it as a protest vote, I refuse to vote for > shit and shat ... the real battle is for the control of Congress!!! > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:05 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> OK this is a very interesting essay. The author absolutely takes down the >> NeverTrumpers and exposes them as either the abject morons or the >> incredibly deceitful liars they are, referring to them as "Conservative, >> Inc", and showing that they are anything but conservative. >> >> *Great read*. Hopefully the morons he shreds in it will be jarred back >> into reality, or at least some of them anyway. >> >> First, a description from the leftwing "The Week" that appears to be >> horrified by it: >> >> Let me present to you one of the most intellectually radical political >> essays I've read in a long time. >> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/> >> >> >> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/> >> >> Penned by the pseudonymous author Publius Decius Mus for the staunchly >> conservative *Claremont Review of Books, *it's titled "The Flight 93 >> Election." America is the plane; Trump and his supporters are Todd Beamer >> and his fellow passengers who stormed the cockpit in a last-ditch (and >> ultimately doomed) effort to forestall catastrophe; and Hillary Clinton and >> her progressive allies in the political and media establishment are the >> hijackers. >> >> >> As I said: radical. >> >> >> >> http://theweek.com/articles/647544/heres-most-powerful-chilling-case-trump-youll-ever-hear >> >> Then a link to the essay itself: >> >> The Flight 93 Election >> >> By: Publius Decius Mus >> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/contributor-list/2031/> >> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/contributor-list//> >> September 5, 2016 >> >> >> (some excerpts)... >> >> >> 2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die. You may >> die anyway. You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit >> and not know how to fly or land the plane. There are no guarantees. >> >> >> Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain. To compound the metaphor: >> a Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a semi-auto. With >> Trump, at least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances. >> >> >> To ordinary conservative ears, this sounds histrionic. The stakes can’t >> be that high because they are never that high—except perhaps in the pages >> of Gibbon. Conservative intellectuals will insist that there has been no >> “end of history” and that all human outcomes are still possible. They will >> even—as Charles Kesler does—admit that America is in “crisis.” But how >> great is the crisis? Can things really be so bad if eight years of Obama >> can be followed by eight more of Hillary, and yet Constitutionalist >> conservatives can still reasonably hope for a restoration of our cherished >> ideals? Cruz in 2024! >> >> ---- >> >> How have the last two decades worked out for you, personally? If you’re a >> member or fellow-traveler of the Davos class, chances are: pretty well. If >> you’re among the subspecies conservative intellectual or politician, you’ve >> accepted—perhaps not consciously, but unmistakably—your status on the >> roster of the Washington Generals of American politics. Your job is to show >> up and lose, but you are a necessary part of the show and you do get paid. >> To the extent that you are ever on the winning side of anything, it’s as >> sophists who help the Davoisie oligarchy rationalize open borders, lower >> wages, outsourcing, de-industrialization, trade giveaways, and endless, >> pointless, winless war. >> >> >> All of Trump’s 16 Republican competitors would have ensured more of the >> same—as will the election of Hillary Clinton. That would be bad enough. But >> at least Republicans are merely reactive when it comes to wholesale >> cultural and political change. Their “opposition” may be in all cases >> ineffectual and often indistinguishable from support. But they don’t dream >> up inanities like 32 “genders,” elective bathrooms, single-payer, Iran >> sycophancy, “Islamophobia,” and Black Lives Matter. They merely help ratify >> them. >> >> >> A Hillary presidency will be pedal-to-the-metal on the entire >> Progressive-left agenda, plus items few of us have yet imagined in our >> darkest moments. Nor is even that the worst. It will be coupled with a >> level of vindictive persecution against resistance and dissent hitherto >> seen in the supposedly liberal West only in the most “advanced” >> Scandinavian countries and the most leftist corners of Germany and England. >> We see this already in the censorship practiced by the Davoisie’s social >> media enablers; in the shameless propaganda tidal wave of the mainstream >> media; and in the personal destruction campaigns—operated through the >> former and aided by the latter—of the Social Justice Warriors. We see it in >> Obama’s flagrant use of the IRS to torment political opponents, the >> gaslighting denial by the media, and the collective shrug by everyone else. >> _____ >> >> Back on planet earth, that flight of fancy at least addresses what to do >> now. The answer to the subsidiary question—will it work?—is much less >> clear. By “it” I mean Trumpism, broadly defined as secure borders, economic >> nationalism, and America-first foreign policy. We Americans have chosen, in >> our foolishness, to disunite the country through stupid immigration, >> economic, and foreign policies. The level of unity America enjoyed before >> the bipartisan junta took over can never be restored. >> >> >> http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/ >> >> This guy hits all cylinders in his takedown of the failures of the >> republicans, and spells out quite frankly what cowardly little dishonest, >> self-serving p*ssies the NeverTrumpers are, and what a sad joke it is that >> they even consider themselves to be conservative at all. >> >> -- >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. 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