I have voted for all of them at different times, I don't just vote party line!!!
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:32 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < [email protected]> wrote: > > Who do you normally vote for - dems, repubs, or libertarians? > > On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 8:44:03 AM UTC-4, brine wrote: >> >> I can never vote for Trump, have hated him personally since the 80s ... >> Hillary, I have only hated since the 90s ... I refuse to vote for either >> and just last night I was at an opening and my ultra liberal friend claimed >> that by voting for Gary Johnson, who I know has no fuckin' chance in hell, >> is voting for Trump!!! I see it as a protest vote, I refuse to vote for >> shit and shat ... the real battle is for the control of Congress!!! >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:05 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> OK this is a very interesting essay. The author absolutely takes down >>> the NeverTrumpers and exposes them as either the abject morons or the >>> incredibly deceitful liars they are, referring to them as "Conservative, >>> Inc", and showing that they are anything but conservative. >>> >>> *Great read*. Hopefully the morons he shreds in it will be jarred back >>> into reality, or at least some of them anyway. >>> >>> First, a description from the leftwing "The Week" that appears to be >>> horrified by it: >>> >>> Let me present to you one of the most intellectually radical political >>> essays I've read in a long time. >>> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/> >>> >>> >>> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/> >>> >>> Penned by the pseudonymous author Publius Decius Mus for the staunchly >>> conservative *Claremont Review of Books, *it's titled "The Flight 93 >>> Election." America is the plane; Trump and his supporters are Todd Beamer >>> and his fellow passengers who stormed the cockpit in a last-ditch (and >>> ultimately doomed) effort to forestall catastrophe; and Hillary Clinton and >>> her progressive allies in the political and media establishment are the >>> hijackers. >>> >>> >>> As I said: radical. >>> >>> >>> http://theweek.com/articles/647544/heres-most-powerful-chill >>> ing-case-trump-youll-ever-hear >>> >>> Then a link to the essay itself: >>> >>> The Flight 93 Election >>> >>> By: Publius Decius Mus >>> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/contributor-list/2031/> >>> <http://www.claremont.org/crb/contributor-list//> >>> September 5, 2016 >>> >>> >>> (some excerpts)... >>> >>> >>> 2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die. You may >>> die anyway. You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit >>> and not know how to fly or land the plane. There are no guarantees. >>> >>> >>> Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain. To compound the >>> metaphor: a Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a >>> semi-auto. With Trump, at least you can spin the cylinder and take your >>> chances. >>> >>> >>> To ordinary conservative ears, this sounds histrionic. The stakes can’t >>> be that high because they are never that high—except perhaps in the pages >>> of Gibbon. Conservative intellectuals will insist that there has been no >>> “end of history” and that all human outcomes are still possible. They will >>> even—as Charles Kesler does—admit that America is in “crisis.” But how >>> great is the crisis? Can things really be so bad if eight years of Obama >>> can be followed by eight more of Hillary, and yet Constitutionalist >>> conservatives can still reasonably hope for a restoration of our cherished >>> ideals? Cruz in 2024! >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> How have the last two decades worked out for you, personally? If you’re >>> a member or fellow-traveler of the Davos class, chances are: pretty well. >>> If you’re among the subspecies conservative intellectual or politician, >>> you’ve accepted—perhaps not consciously, but unmistakably—your status on >>> the roster of the Washington Generals of American politics. Your job is to >>> show up and lose, but you are a necessary part of the show and you do get >>> paid. To the extent that you are ever on the winning side of anything, it’s >>> as sophists who help the Davoisie oligarchy rationalize open borders, lower >>> wages, outsourcing, de-industrialization, trade giveaways, and endless, >>> pointless, winless war. >>> >>> >>> All of Trump’s 16 Republican competitors would have ensured more of the >>> same—as will the election of Hillary Clinton. That would be bad enough. But >>> at least Republicans are merely reactive when it comes to wholesale >>> cultural and political change. Their “opposition” may be in all cases >>> ineffectual and often indistinguishable from support. But they don’t dream >>> up inanities like 32 “genders,” elective bathrooms, single-payer, Iran >>> sycophancy, “Islamophobia,” and Black Lives Matter. They merely help ratify >>> them. >>> >>> >>> A Hillary presidency will be pedal-to-the-metal on the entire >>> Progressive-left agenda, plus items few of us have yet imagined in our >>> darkest moments. Nor is even that the worst. It will be coupled with a >>> level of vindictive persecution against resistance and dissent hitherto >>> seen in the supposedly liberal West only in the most “advanced” >>> Scandinavian countries and the most leftist corners of Germany and England. >>> We see this already in the censorship practiced by the Davoisie’s social >>> media enablers; in the shameless propaganda tidal wave of the mainstream >>> media; and in the personal destruction campaigns—operated through the >>> former and aided by the latter—of the Social Justice Warriors. We see it in >>> Obama’s flagrant use of the IRS to torment political opponents, the >>> gaslighting denial by the media, and the collective shrug by everyone else. >>> _____ >>> >>> Back on planet earth, that flight of fancy at least addresses what to do >>> now. The answer to the subsidiary question—will it work?—is much less >>> clear. By “it” I mean Trumpism, broadly defined as secure borders, economic >>> nationalism, and America-first foreign policy. We Americans have chosen, in >>> our foolishness, to disunite the country through stupid immigration, >>> economic, and foreign policies. The level of unity America enjoyed before >>> the bipartisan junta took over can never be restored. >>> >>> >>> http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/ >>> >>> This guy hits all cylinders in his takedown of the failures of the >>> republicans, and spells out quite frankly what cowardly little dishonest, >>> self-serving p*ssies the NeverTrumpers are, and what a sad joke it is that >>> they even consider themselves to be conservative at all. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. 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