I didn't realize waffle house had a permanent fact-based position. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Like I said... > > I stand by my position. > > Good luck in your Socialist Society. > > I'll take Fantasy Land over that any day. > > > On Nov 7, 12:22 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > your hand must really smell. on top of that your ignorance in believing > the > > system inviolable reeks as well. > > > > good luck in fantasy land. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > In other words, you can't because it is in fact Private information, > > > despite what you assert here. > > > > > As for holding my breath... > > > > > Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up quicker. > > > > > On Nov 7, 12:16 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > First, I would have to care enough to do it, second, unlike you I can > not > > > be > > > > baited, third, your naivete is really not my problem. > > > > > > please hold your breath while waiting. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You are obviously as stupid and ignorant as you show here, daily. > > > > > > > Either put up or shut up... > > > > > > > Let's see my Year 2000 Tax Filing Mr "I can get anything I want". > > > > > > > I'll wait here. > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 9:00 am, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > you can't be this naive.......... > > > > > > > > On 11/7/08, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have at it... > > > > > > > > > Let's see who goes to Jail when you try. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 8:57 am, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > you have claimed on this forum to be a supporter of NORML, it > is > > > > > enough > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get a check done for illegal/ unclaimed income or for 503c > > > violations > > > > > > > > regarding "donations". > > > > > > > > > > and you guess wrong. > > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/08, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > And just how do you suppose you could get them "if you > wanted > > > to"? > > > > > > > > > > > Without the prerequisite position, on your part, you would > be > > > > > breaking > > > > > > > > > the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > I have given you none of those reasons, so if you did try > to > > > get my > > > > > > > > > Records, as you say "if you wanted to", then I would have > you > > > > > > > > > prosecuted. > > > > > > > > > > > I guess such Records ARE in FACT Private, despite what YOU > try > > > to > > > > > > > > > assert. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 8:42 am, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > exactly.... or unless a request is made by a > substantiated > > > FOIA > > > > > > > > > request. If > > > > > > > > > > i am suing you for part oflast years income i have the > right > > > to > > > > > see > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > returns. If you owe me a debt and could not pay i have a > > > right to > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > returns.... there is an endless list of acceptable FOIA > > > reasons > > > > > to > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > access to your records. > > > > > > > > > > > > you wish you could afford me.... but I am completely > retired > > > as > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 14-10-08. > > > > > > > > > > If you think that there exists a single law written with > no > > > back > > > > > door > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > you are an idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/08, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax information, both federal and state, is not a > public > > > > > record. It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > not disclosed unless: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The taxpayer is part of a court proceeding where tax > issues > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > > > > > A government agency is trying to locate a parent who > owes > > > child > > > > > > > > > > > support payments > > > > > > > > > > > State financial aid programs have been requested > > > > > > > > > > > It is for statistical use > > > > > > > > > > > Agencies request tax information for the purpose of tax > > > > > > > > > > > administration > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs11-pub.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 8:26 am, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/08, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are Child Support payments Public Records? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In several states, yes. they post the deadbeat dad > lists. > > > not > > > > > > > > > surprised > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > don't know that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are your Tax Records Public? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, they are shared between several departments. I > can > > > get > > > > > yours > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted too and if you wanted you could get mine.... > FOIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, why do Candidates have to "release" them to > the > > > Public > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for us to see them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > define "them" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there are Laws about Public Servants using Public > > > funds > > > > > in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manner... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, and that, old son, is the point made..... these > > > > > "ststutes > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > broken and requires "criminal" prosecution. not a > matter > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > ACLU > > > > > > > > > > > > covers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you suppose there is an Investigation into > what > > > was > > > > > looked > > > > > > > at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because criminal laws were broken.... why do you > think > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > one?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are Public Records, why do you suppose they > would > > > > > have to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all i have to do is fale a FOIA request with a well > > > founded > > > > > > > reason to > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > > these records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of > the > > > Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 7:59 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weren't those "public" records??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 9:32 am, Gaar < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right to Privacy is in fact a Civil Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of your ignorance on the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 4:43 am, "mike [move on] 532" < > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first of all if that happened it isn't a > > > > > constitutional > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > civil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rights matter . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 5:05 am, Gaar < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you suppose the ACLU isn't looking > into > > > the > > > > > > > Privacy > > > > > > > > > > > Abuses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > against Joe the Plumber by Liberal Office > > > holders, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken the Law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 1:52 am, "mike [move on] 532" < > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we shall see if that is correct or not . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 4:09 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" < > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These idiots are typical of bankrupt > > > > > middle-class > > > > > > > > > > > > > psuedo-intellectals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rule of law no longer applies in > times > > > of > > > > > > > political > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's will not repeal one > ant-democratic > > > law > > > > > as > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > supports > > > > > > > > > > > > > them as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > integral in fighting the war on terror. > He > > > > > hasn't > > > > > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > > > > these laws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > once in his campaign, because they are > not > > > an > > > > > > > issue, > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 7, 7:48 pm, "mike [move on] 532" > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the Desk of Anthony D. Romero, > ACLU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read the ACLU's "Actions for > Restoring > > > > > America" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=dJlk6eJ9WuFCahyr-YvIxw > > > .. > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ACLU Supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barack Obama's victory gives all of > us > > > who > > > > > care > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > liberty > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > real opportunity to restore the > > > Constitution > > > > > and > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > > > freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forward. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it's up to us. And, the ACLU is > ready > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For months, ACLU attorneys, policy > > > experts > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > legislative > > > > > > > > > > > > > advocates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- the very same people who have > fought > > > tooth > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > nail to > > > > > > > > > > > > > defend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freedom over the last eight years -- > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > developing > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Actions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Restoring America." It's our > blueprint > > > for > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Mark M. Kahle Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... 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