We've been ignoring the constitution a heck of allot longer than that... On Nov 6, 3:53 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't even start start with the constitution shit... you're not a law > professor. BTW, we've been ignoring the constitution for the last > eight years anyway. > > On Nov 6, 4:52 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > WELCOME TO 2008! If this were 1888, we could argue that we can all > > take care of ourselves, but it is not and the fact of the matter is if > > we took that Darwinist approach, there would be 300+ million people > > scrambling for resources that cannot possible support us all without a > > giant body to oversee their distribution and preservation. Watch a > > movie called "Off the Grid" about a community in New Mexico where > > people just do what they want and answer to no one. They get along > > fine, but I sure as hell don't want to live there. > > > On Nov 6, 4:48 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > WAKE UP! to function in this modern society our government need to > > > take on tasks that are too large or too unprofitable for citizens to > > > take on. EXAMPLES: Public Transportation, Public Schools, HEALTH CARE > > > FOR EVERYONE. If we truly live in the greatest country in the world, I > > > don't see how these are outside the realm of reasonable expectation. > > > AND YES, SOME WILL HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN OTHERS > > > > On Nov 6, 4:45 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > So nothing should ever be mandated by the government? You sound like a > > > > five year old. "I don't need to listen to anybody, i can do whatever i > > > > want. No, I won't share my toys." > > > > > On Nov 6, 4:44 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I am all for Charity... > > > > > > It is when you try to mandate it that I have a pronlem. > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:41 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. BUT THE REFUSAL TO CONSIDER ANY KIND OF > > > > > > SOCIAL REFORM FOR FEAR OF "SOCIALISTS" IS IRRESPONSIBLE. > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > YOU IGNORANCE NOTWITHSTANDING > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 4:39 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Socialism and Charity are NOT the same thing... > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:29 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I posted this recently in another thread, but decided to give > > > > > > > > it its > > > > > > > > own section so everyone can take a look. > > > > > > > > > In my city we have a program called the Kalamazoo Promise. > > > > > > > > Wealthy > > > > > > > > families from Kalamazoo who were grateful for the city and its > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > that helped create their wealth, helped shape their character, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > helped raise their children donated tens of millions of dollars > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > fund that gives a FREE college education to ANY graduate of > > > > > > > > Kalamazoo > > > > > > > > Public Schools that chooses to go to any publicly funded school > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Michigan. In a few short years the program has been widly > > > > > > > > successful > > > > > > > > and popular, giving record numbers of poor and minority > > > > > > > > students, who > > > > > > > > have no college fund and maybe not the grades to get a free > > > > > > > > ride, a > > > > > > > > chance to go to college. It also pays for the schooling of rich > > > > > > > > white > > > > > > > > students on the west side of town who get BMW's for graduation > > > > > > > > presents and have had mutual funds in their names since they > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > fetuses. (That is called equality.) > > > > > > > > > Now this program is the envy of every school district in the > > > > > > > > state, > > > > > > > > and many have made plans for future county ballot proposals > > > > > > > > that would > > > > > > > > raise property taxes to create similar organizations that are > > > > > > > > publicly > > > > > > > > funded in order to produce the same spectacular results. > > > > > > > > > "Socialism" is always bad, eh? You wouldn't pay an extra $85 a > > > > > > > > year or > > > > > > > > so on your house to ensure that every child in the district you > > > > > > > > live > > > > > > > > in has a fair shake at higher education? > > > > > > > > The way I see it, it is an investment in the future, and one we > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > afford to pass up. But had a private organization headed by the > > > > > > > > Stryker and Upjohn families not done it first, we would've > > > > > > > > never known > > > > > > > > a program like this could be so good, mostly because selfish > > > > > > > > assholes > > > > > > > > like Gaar are too concerned with stroking their egos and > > > > > > > > throwing out > > > > > > > > buzzwords to scare people to actually give a shit about how to > > > > > > > > DO > > > > > > > > SOMETHING to better the lives of the people in their country and > > > > > > > > community. > > > > > > > > Be brave, Gaar. > > > > > > > > Have faith in your neighbor. > > > > > > > > Love your country, and wish it well no matter whose in charge. > > > > > > > > Start loving yourself by loving others. > > > > > > > > > Good thoughts breed good actions. Good actions breed good > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > Owners of two capitalistic profit loving corporations walked > > > > > > > > this walk > > > > > > > > and made a difference that can never be measured in dividends > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > profits, for the joy of the grateful recipients is infinite. > > > > > > > > > I know every word of this post will be picked apart by the > > > > > > > > bitter > > > > > > > > shades who eternally haunt the reasonable folk in this forum, > > > > > > > > but I > > > > > > > > invite them to come to Kalamazoo, talk to everyday citizens of > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > color, age, religion, creed, political affiliation, and social > > > > > > > > background and see what a difference a Promise can make.- Hide > > > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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