The biggest problem with "keeping your plan" was that the insurance companies got rid of many existing plans and people were forced to either find a plan from another company or a different plan within the same network ... the system is still too slanted to the insurance and pharma companies!!!
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Uhm???? > > Where are you getting your numbers from Lobo? Back in 2014 at the one > year anniversary from when the ACA was rolled out and implemented, only 56% > were able to keep their original health care plans, (which includes > Doctors) and less than 6% were happy with the plan. This was before the > significant price increases that happened last year and are predicted to > double this year if something isn't done. > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Lobo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good to see you too, Kam. >> >> <<Before I burn 10 mins of my time, do you actually believe that 98% of >> those folks enrolled in the ACA were able to keep their doctor?>> >> >> 98% of people who have insurance policies have kept their doctors, >> whether they got them through employment or on exchanges. >> >> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:29:16 PM UTC-5, Kamakazee wrote: >>> >>> Hey Los Lobos, good to see you. >>> >>> That being said; "*If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor">>* >>> >>> True enough for 98% of insurance policyholders after the passage of the >>> ACA." >>> >>> Before I burn 10 mins of my time, do you actually believe that 98% of >>> those folks enrolled in the ACA were able to keep their doctor? >>> >>> I'll give you a hint, no where near 98%, but lemme know if you're game. >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-6, Lobo wrote: >>> >>>> BTW: >>>> >>>> <<"*If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor">>* >>>> >>>> True enough for 98% of insurance policyholders after the passage of the >>>> ACA. Unlike the huge percentage of Americans who lost their doctors of >>>> choice after the switch to HMOs under Republicans in the 1970s. Not to >>>> mention the tens of millions of Americans who will lose ANY doctors PERIOD >>>> after Trump/GOPers "repeal & replace" the ACA with JustGoAwayAndDieCare. >>>> >>>> << "*Thousands of Shovel Ready Jobs!">>* >>>> >>>> They were ready soon enough. The Stimulus created/saved 3.2 million >>>> jobs and turned around the slide into another Great Depression (we were >>>> losing 800,000 jobs a month!) into the longest sustained period of job >>>> growth in history. >>>> >>>> <<"*My Administration will be the most transparent Administration bar >>>> none!">>* >>>> >>>> Doesn't it feel a little silly to bring that up coming on the heels of >>>> a president who won't even release his tax returns, despite having billions >>>> of dollars of assets and debts here and abroad? >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:50:19 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey Lobo! >>>>> >>>>> (Not Even Close.....No Cigar My Friend!) >>>>> >>>>> Of course, this comes from the Obama Administration's web site: >>>>> >>>>> https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infogra >>>>> phic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states >>>>> >>>>> These are the same folks who sold the American People: "*If You Like >>>>> Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor"*; and among other "Greatest >>>>> Hits" like: "*Thousands of Shovel Ready Jobs!"*; and, "*My >>>>> Administration will be the most transparent Administration bar none!" * >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, we've had numerous examples of the Obama Administration's >>>>> literal failure of vetting anyone, much less folks from Iran, Iraq, >>>>> Somalia, Syria, Yemen, and whatever the other two Nations are! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Lobo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Two to three years being intensively investigated by nine different >>>>>> US agencies is "no vetting process whatsoever"? >>>>>> >>>>>> https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infogra >>>>>> phic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states >>>>>> Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United >>>>>> States >>>>>> NOVEMBER 20, 2015 AT 7:09 PM ET BY AMY POPE >>>>>> TWITTER >>>>>> <http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=%2Fblog%2F2015%2F11%2F20%2Finfographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states&text=Infographic%3A%20The%20Screening%20Process%20for%20Refugee%20Entry%20into%20the%20...> >>>>>> FACEBOOK >>>>>> <http://facebook.com/sharer.php?u=%2Fblog%2F2015%2F11%2F20%2Finfographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states> >>>>>> EMAIL >>>>>> Summary: >>>>>> A step-by-step guide to the rigorous process for refugee entry into >>>>>> the U.S. >>>>>> >>>>>> Refugees undergo more rigorous screening than anyone else we allow >>>>>> into the United States. Here's what the screening process looks like for >>>>>> them: >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: The Screening Process for Refugees Entry Into the United >>>>>> States (full text of the graphic written below the image)] >>>>>> The Full Text of the Graphic: >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> The Screening Process for Refugee Entry Into the United States >>>>>> >>>>>> Recurrent vetting: Throughout this process, pending applications >>>>>> continue to be checked against terrorist databases, to ensure new, >>>>>> relevant >>>>>> terrorism information has not come to light. If a match is found, that >>>>>> case >>>>>> is paused for further review. Applicants who continue to have no flags >>>>>> continue the process. If there is doubt about whether an applicant poses >>>>>> a >>>>>> security risk, they will not be admitted. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. *Many refugee applicants identify themselves to the U.N. >>>>>> Refugee Agency, UNHCR. UNHCR, then:* >>>>>> - **Collects identifying documents >>>>>> - Performs initial assessment >>>>>> - Collects biodata: name, address, birthday, place of >>>>>> birth, etc. >>>>>> - Collects biometrics: iris scans (for Syrians, and other >>>>>> refugee populations in the Middle East) >>>>>> - Interviews applicants to confirm refugee status and the need >>>>>> for resettlement >>>>>> - Initial information checked again >>>>>> - Only applicants who are strong candidates for resettlement >>>>>> move forward (less than 1% of global refugee population). >>>>>> 2. *Applicants are received by a federally-funded >>>>>> Resettlement Support Center (RSC):* >>>>>> - Collects identifying documents >>>>>> - Creates an applicant file >>>>>> - Compiles information to conduct biographic security checks >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Biographic security checks start with enhanced interagency >>>>>> security checks* >>>>>> >>>>>> Refugees are subject to the highest level of security checks of >>>>>> any category of traveler to the United States. >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> **U.S. security agencies screen the candidate, including: >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> National Counterterrorism Center/Intelligence Community >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> FBI >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Department of Homeland Security >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> State Department >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> The screening looks for indicators, like: >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Information that the individual is a security risk >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Connections to known bad actors >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Outstanding warrants/immigration or criminal violations >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> *DHS conducts an enhanced review of Syrian cases, which may be >>>>>> referred to USCIS Fraud Detection and National Security >>>>>> Directorate for >>>>>> review. Research that is used by the interviewing officer informs >>>>>> lines of >>>>>> question related to the applicant’s eligibility and credibility.* >>>>>> 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/USCIS interview:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Interviews are conducted by USCIS Officers specially trained >>>>>> for interviews** >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Fingerprints are collected and submitted (biometric check) >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Re-interviews can be conducted if fingerprint results or new >>>>>> information raises questions. If new biographic information is >>>>>> identified >>>>>> by USCIS at an interview, additional security checks on the >>>>>> information are >>>>>> conducted. USCIS may place a case on hold to do additional >>>>>> research or >>>>>> investigation. Otherwise, the process continues. >>>>>> 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Biometric security checks:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Applicant’s fingerprints are taken by U.S. government employees >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the FBI’s biometric >>>>>> database. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the DHS biometric >>>>>> database, containing watch-list information and previous >>>>>> immigration >>>>>> encounters in the U.S. and overseas. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the U.S. Department of >>>>>> Defense biometric database, which includes fingerprint records >>>>>> captured in >>>>>> Iraq and other locations. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> If not already halted, this is the end point for cases with >>>>>> security concerns. Otherwise, the process continues. >>>>>> 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Medical check:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> The need for medical screening is determined >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the end point for cases denied due to medical reasons. >>>>>> Refugees may be provided medical treatment for communicable >>>>>> diseases such >>>>>> as tuberculosis. >>>>>> 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Cultural orientation and assignment to domestic resettlement >>>>>> locations:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Applicants complete cultural orientation classes. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> An assessment is made by a U.S.-based non-governmental >>>>>> organization to determine the best resettlement location for the >>>>>> candidate(s). Considerations include: >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Family; candidates with family in a certain area may be >>>>>> placed in that area. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Health; a candidate with asthma may be matched to certain >>>>>> regions. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> A location is chosen. >>>>>> 8. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Travel:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> International Organization for Migration books travel >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Prior to entry in the United States, applicants are subject to: >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Screening from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s >>>>>> National Targeting Center-Passenger >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> The Transportation Security Administration’s Secure Flight >>>>>> Program >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the end point for some applicants. Applicants who have >>>>>> no flags continue the process. >>>>>> 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> *U.S. Arrival:* >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> **All refugees are required to apply for a green card within >>>>>> a year of their arrival to the United States, which triggers: >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> Another set of security procedures with the U.S. government. >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> *Refugees are woven into the rich fabric of American society!* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Amy Pope is Deputy Assistant to the President for Homeland Security* >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *Correction: A previous version of the graphic and blog post stated >>>>>> in step 2 that the name of the RSC was the Refugee Support Center. This >>>>>> has >>>>>> been corrected to the proper name, the Resettlement Support Center.* >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 6:19:40 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since we seem to, "Speak In Meme" on occasion here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good Evening Mags! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm curious if you really subscribe to what's contained in your >>>>>>>> meme, or if you're just, "Passing It Along"; as the >>>>>>>> "OccupyDemocrats/George >>>>>>>> Soros/DailyKos/DemocraticUnderground" are encouraging the Secular >>>>>>>> Progressive camp to express and propound? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:32 PM, ImStillMags Mags < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i7vEKt-p5qs/WJEQV5eqmFI/AAAAAAAAQpE/fjkf_UQ6rzEoMAhX1MJfc5rwgkfDBR6OQCLcB/s1600/16196037_1168354486619262_9066036556020302696_n-1.jpg> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:51:26 AM UTC-8, OhioMark wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> they want to let hundreds of thousands of potential terrorists to >>>>>>>>>> just waltz right into our country, no questions asked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group >>>>>>>>> /PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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