I disagree Brine. To date, most insurance companies have left the market because they cannot make a profit and/or compete.
Just as important, "ObamaCare" prohibits what I termed, "Catastrophic Health Insurance"; where folks had a plan that covered them in some type of health care crisis; now, EVERYONE must pay for pap smears, abortions; contraception; (at 60, why do I need contraception?); and mental health services. Total bull crap.... On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > The biggest problem with "keeping your plan" was that the insurance > companies got rid of many existing plans and people were forced to either > find a plan from another company or a different plan within the same > network ... the system is still too slanted to the insurance and pharma > companies!!! > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Uhm???? >> >> Where are you getting your numbers from Lobo? Back in 2014 at the one >> year anniversary from when the ACA was rolled out and implemented, only 56% >> were able to keep their original health care plans, (which includes >> Doctors) and less than 6% were happy with the plan. This was before the >> significant price increases that happened last year and are predicted to >> double this year if something isn't done. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Lobo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Good to see you too, Kam. >>> >>> <<Before I burn 10 mins of my time, do you actually believe that 98% of >>> those folks enrolled in the ACA were able to keep their doctor?>> >>> >>> 98% of people who have insurance policies have kept their doctors, >>> whether they got them through employment or on exchanges. >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:29:16 PM UTC-5, Kamakazee wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Los Lobos, good to see you. >>>> >>>> That being said; "*If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your >>>> Doctor">>* >>>> >>>> True enough for 98% of insurance policyholders after the passage of the >>>> ACA." >>>> >>>> Before I burn 10 mins of my time, do you actually believe that 98% of >>>> those folks enrolled in the ACA were able to keep their doctor? >>>> >>>> I'll give you a hint, no where near 98%, but lemme know if you're game. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-6, Lobo wrote: >>>> >>>>> BTW: >>>>> >>>>> <<"*If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor">>* >>>>> >>>>> True enough for 98% of insurance policyholders after the passage of >>>>> the ACA. Unlike the huge percentage of Americans who lost their doctors of >>>>> choice after the switch to HMOs under Republicans in the 1970s. Not to >>>>> mention the tens of millions of Americans who will lose ANY doctors PERIOD >>>>> after Trump/GOPers "repeal & replace" the ACA with JustGoAwayAndDieCare. >>>>> >>>>> << "*Thousands of Shovel Ready Jobs!">>* >>>>> >>>>> They were ready soon enough. The Stimulus created/saved 3.2 million >>>>> jobs and turned around the slide into another Great Depression (we were >>>>> losing 800,000 jobs a month!) into the longest sustained period of job >>>>> growth in history. >>>>> >>>>> <<"*My Administration will be the most transparent Administration bar >>>>> none!">>* >>>>> >>>>> Doesn't it feel a little silly to bring that up coming on the heels of >>>>> a president who won't even release his tax returns, despite having >>>>> billions >>>>> of dollars of assets and debts here and abroad? >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:50:19 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Lobo! >>>>>> >>>>>> (Not Even Close.....No Cigar My Friend!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, this comes from the Obama Administration's web site: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infogra >>>>>> phic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states >>>>>> >>>>>> These are the same folks who sold the American People: "*If You Like >>>>>> Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor"*; and among other "Greatest >>>>>> Hits" like: "*Thousands of Shovel Ready Jobs!"*; and, "*My >>>>>> Administration will be the most transparent Administration bar none!" * >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile, we've had numerous examples of the Obama Administration's >>>>>> literal failure of vetting anyone, much less folks from Iran, Iraq, >>>>>> Somalia, Syria, Yemen, and whatever the other two Nations are! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Lobo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Two to three years being intensively investigated by nine different >>>>>>> US agencies is "no vetting process whatsoever"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infogra >>>>>>> phic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states >>>>>>> Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United >>>>>>> States >>>>>>> NOVEMBER 20, 2015 AT 7:09 PM ET BY AMY POPE >>>>>>> TWITTER >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=%2Fblog%2F2015%2F11%2F20%2Finfographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states&text=Infographic%3A%20The%20Screening%20Process%20for%20Refugee%20Entry%20into%20the%20...> >>>>>>> FACEBOOK >>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/sharer.php?u=%2Fblog%2F2015%2F11%2F20%2Finfographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states> >>>>>>> EMAIL >>>>>>> Summary: >>>>>>> A step-by-step guide to the rigorous process for refugee entry into >>>>>>> the U.S. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Refugees undergo more rigorous screening than anyone else we allow >>>>>>> into the United States. Here's what the screening process looks like for >>>>>>> them: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: The Screening Process for Refugees Entry Into the United >>>>>>> States (full text of the graphic written below the image)] >>>>>>> The Full Text of the Graphic: >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> The Screening Process for Refugee Entry Into the United States >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Recurrent vetting: Throughout this process, pending applications >>>>>>> continue to be checked against terrorist databases, to ensure new, >>>>>>> relevant >>>>>>> terrorism information has not come to light. If a match is found, that >>>>>>> case >>>>>>> is paused for further review. Applicants who continue to have no flags >>>>>>> continue the process. If there is doubt about whether an applicant >>>>>>> poses a >>>>>>> security risk, they will not be admitted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. *Many refugee applicants identify themselves to the U.N. >>>>>>> Refugee Agency, UNHCR. UNHCR, then:* >>>>>>> - **Collects identifying documents >>>>>>> - Performs initial assessment >>>>>>> - Collects biodata: name, address, birthday, place of >>>>>>> birth, etc. >>>>>>> - Collects biometrics: iris scans (for Syrians, and other >>>>>>> refugee populations in the Middle East) >>>>>>> - Interviews applicants to confirm refugee status and the >>>>>>> need for resettlement >>>>>>> - Initial information checked again >>>>>>> - Only applicants who are strong candidates for resettlement >>>>>>> move forward (less than 1% of global refugee population). >>>>>>> 2. *Applicants are received by a federally-funded >>>>>>> Resettlement Support Center (RSC):* >>>>>>> - Collects identifying documents >>>>>>> - Creates an applicant file >>>>>>> - Compiles information to conduct biographic security checks >>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Biographic security checks start with enhanced interagency >>>>>>> security checks* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Refugees are subject to the highest level of security checks of >>>>>>> any category of traveler to the United States. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **U.S. security agencies screen the candidate, including: >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> National Counterterrorism Center/Intelligence Community >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FBI >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> State Department >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The screening looks for indicators, like: >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Information that the individual is a security risk >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Connections to known bad actors >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Outstanding warrants/immigration or criminal violations >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *DHS conducts an enhanced review of Syrian cases, which may >>>>>>> be referred to USCIS Fraud Detection and National Security >>>>>>> Directorate for >>>>>>> review. Research that is used by the interviewing officer informs >>>>>>> lines of >>>>>>> question related to the applicant’s eligibility and credibility.* >>>>>>> 4. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/USCIS interview:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interviews are conducted by USCIS Officers specially trained >>>>>>> for interviews** >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fingerprints are collected and submitted (biometric check) >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re-interviews can be conducted if fingerprint results or new >>>>>>> information raises questions. If new biographic information is >>>>>>> identified >>>>>>> by USCIS at an interview, additional security checks on the >>>>>>> information are >>>>>>> conducted. USCIS may place a case on hold to do additional >>>>>>> research or >>>>>>> investigation. Otherwise, the process continues. >>>>>>> 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Biometric security checks:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Applicant’s fingerprints are taken by U.S. government >>>>>>> employees >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the FBI’s biometric >>>>>>> database. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the DHS biometric >>>>>>> database, containing watch-list information and previous >>>>>>> immigration >>>>>>> encounters in the U.S. and overseas. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fingerprints are screened against the U.S. Department of >>>>>>> Defense biometric database, which includes fingerprint records >>>>>>> captured in >>>>>>> Iraq and other locations. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If not already halted, this is the end point for cases with >>>>>>> security concerns. Otherwise, the process continues. >>>>>>> 6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Medical check:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The need for medical screening is determined >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the end point for cases denied due to medical >>>>>>> reasons. Refugees may be provided medical treatment for >>>>>>> communicable >>>>>>> diseases such as tuberculosis. >>>>>>> 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Cultural orientation and assignment to domestic resettlement >>>>>>> locations:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Applicants complete cultural orientation classes. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An assessment is made by a U.S.-based non-governmental >>>>>>> organization to determine the best resettlement location for the >>>>>>> candidate(s). Considerations include: >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Family; candidates with family in a certain area may be >>>>>>> placed in that area. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Health; a candidate with asthma may be matched to certain >>>>>>> regions. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A location is chosen. >>>>>>> 8. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Travel:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> International Organization for Migration books travel >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prior to entry in the United States, applicants are subject >>>>>>> to: >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Screening from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s >>>>>>> National Targeting Center-Passenger >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Transportation Security Administration’s Secure Flight >>>>>>> Program >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the end point for some applicants. Applicants who >>>>>>> have no flags continue the process. >>>>>>> 9. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *U.S. Arrival:* >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **All refugees are required to apply for a green card >>>>>>> within a year of their arrival to the United States, which >>>>>>> triggers: >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another set of security procedures with the U.S. >>>>>>> government. >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Refugees are woven into the rich fabric of American society!* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Amy Pope is Deputy Assistant to the President for Homeland >>>>>>> Security* >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Correction: A previous version of the graphic and blog post stated >>>>>>> in step 2 that the name of the RSC was the Refugee Support Center. This >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> been corrected to the proper name, the Resettlement Support Center.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 6:19:40 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since we seem to, "Speak In Meme" on occasion here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good Evening Mags! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm curious if you really subscribe to what's contained in your >>>>>>>>> meme, or if you're just, "Passing It Along"; as the >>>>>>>>> "OccupyDemocrats/George >>>>>>>>> Soros/DailyKos/DemocraticUnderground" are encouraging the Secular >>>>>>>>> Progressive camp to express and propound? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:32 PM, ImStillMags Mags < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i7vEKt-p5qs/WJEQV5eqmFI/AAAAAAAAQpE/fjkf_UQ6rzEoMAhX1MJfc5rwgkfDBR6OQCLcB/s1600/16196037_1168354486619262_9066036556020302696_n-1.jpg> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:51:26 AM UTC-8, OhioMark wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> they want to let hundreds of thousands of potential terrorists >>>>>>>>>>> to just waltz right into our country, no questions asked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group >>>>>>>>>> /PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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