I think you are a lucky man! Plus the foot has so many bones- like the
hand.

On Nov 8, 8:58�pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, i am talking about US and european trained board certified physicians
> with teaching credentials in several Universities in the US and Europe. The
> actual costs are lower here.
> they use the very same equipment/drugs/methods your very best hospitals do.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Are you talking about cheapie surgeries in Latin America? Lord- those
> > people would sell their mothers! What if the outcome is a mess?// My
> > last beau was a surgeon and he agreed when I called him a glorified
> > plumber and he died from a raging cancer in his late 50's.All those
> > medical honors.// Health starts with good genes, diet and exercise.//
> > Until our consumer culture struck, how did the human race survive?
>
> > On Nov 8, 4:54 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > just go elsewhere for the surgery.... it is a LOT cheaper and just as
> > good.
>
> > �> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > I have had both heart bypass, as well as my colon removed, and I paid
> > > > zip. but for now, I am lucky to have excellant insurance. but after
> > > > the dems are done I will be fucked.
>
> > > > On Nov 8, 5:43 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > No, I'm fine and fit as a fiddle.
>
> > > > > My point was that using the VERY SAME equipment and procedures as any
> > US
> > > > > hospital my total bill was 3 thousand dollars.
>
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:36 PM, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I just saw trays of chicken feet today in my favorite supermarket!
> > > > > > They cater to Whites, Blacks and Hispanics so you never know what
> > will
> > > > > > pop up.// I am sorry you were injured and hope you make a full
> > > > > > recovery. I consider hospitals dangerous places what with staph
> > > > > > infections and screw-ups in medications but I suppose I get that
> > > > > > suspicion from my parents. A friend has wound up in a nursing home
> > > > > > with a paralysed leg after bad back surgery, etc. But he visited
> > too
> > > > > > many doctors before and they had him coming and going with meds and
> > > > > > learned guesses. Having great insurance is no reason to use it like
> > a
> > > > > > dance card of old. Doctors and hospitals have learned how to work
> > the
> > > > > > system. Don't get me started with my mother's exit from life.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 8, 2:07 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On the flip side....
>
> > > > > > > three years ago I had the bones in my left leg (directly above
> > and
> > > > > > > below the joint) smashed like a chicken bone under a hammer.
>
> > > > > > > 8 hour surgery, some 15 pins and screws (still have two) three
> > weeks
> > > > > > > in hospital, cast for 10 months, 11 round trips by ambulance
> > (100+
> > > > > > > miles each way), two weeks of inpatient rehab, one month
> > out-patient
> > > > > > > rehab three times a week, all drugs, MRI's, Xrays etc
> > included....
>
> > > > > > > 3000 dollars.total. Hospital has US/German certification. Great
> > > > > > > doctors, nurses and therapists.
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 8, 10:03 am, studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > All I know is that I've been paying my hospital bills...
> > > > > > > > in cash.
>
> > > > > > > > What I don't do is pay what the first bill says I should.
> > > > > > > > I ask for a discount, and they give me one.
>
> > > > > > > > My initial hospital bill was a quaint arbitrary number for
> > > > > > > > $43,000....$5,000 a day for just the room I stayed.
>
> > > > > > > > The discount was almost 75%, which meant I paid $11,000 in the
> > > > end...
> > > > > > > > *if* I paid within 10 days...so I did.
> > > > > > > > If I wasn't able to pay within 10 days, I would be responsible
> > for
> > > > > > > > paying the full $43,000 in monthly payments.
>
> > > > > > > > If I would have had insurance, the insurance companies would
> > > > > > > > have probably paid at least 50% of that.
>
> > > > > > > > The doctors bills and other services were separate from the
> > > > hospital
> > > > > > > > bill...
> > > > > > > > the doctors like making arbitrary numbers also, but in their
> > case,
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > won't give you a discount unless you share your total financial
> > > > > > > > background
> > > > > > > > with them, and if you have more than $7,500 in liquid assets,
> > you
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > to pay the whole amount.
>
> > > > > > > > One doctor I have to pay $2,000 for what amounts to be about 2
> > > > hours
> > > > > > > > work,
> > > > > > > > of which the tests he did were a total waste of time and showed
> > > > > > > > nothing useful.
>
> > > > > > > > I'm now looking forward to my new hospital bill...it should
> > > > initially
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > somewhere around $50,000.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > --
> > > > > Mark M. Kahle
> > > > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me
>
> > > --
> > > Mark M. Kahle
> > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me-
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