We obviously have very different interpretations of how and why the Second 
Amendment was written the way it was.  I'll leave it at that.

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 3:29:39 PM UTC-5, MJ wrote:
>
>
>
> Personal?
> I have no problems with English grammar, while you demonstrably do -- 
> hence the discussion which ensued.
>
> Again ...
> A *nominative absolute* is a noun phrase that begins or ends a sentence. 
> The phrase has no grammatical connection with the rest of the sentence. 
> Most *nominative *absolutes contain a participle or participial phrase 
> which modifies the noun or pronoun. 
>
> Let's make it simpler ...
>
> [BECAUSE] 
>
>
> *A well regulated Militia [is] necessary to the security of a free State, 
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. *Have 
> you ever diagrammed a sentence? THAT might aid you if you continue to have 
> difficulties.
>
> [image: Emacs!] 
>
>
>
> Professor Levy merely made substitutions in an effort to light the bulb.
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> "Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the 
> birth-right of an American." -- Pennsylvanian Trench Cox
>
>
>
>
>
> At 02:14 PM 7/20/2017, you wrote:
>
> Define "well regulated" as it applies to a militia.
>
> Professor Levy's quote applies to "a well-educated electorate," not a 
> "well regulated militia."Â  Apples and oranges. 
>
> Why are you attempting to make the discussion personal?
>
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:11:41 AM UTC-5, MJ wrote: You mean the 
> nominative absolute? You *do* grasp simple English grammar?
> Regard$, --MJ
> "A well-educated electorate being necessary for self-governance in a free 
> state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be 
> infringed." Is there anyone who would suggest that means only registered 
> voters have a right to read?" -- Robert Levy, Georgetown University 
> professor
>
>
>
>
> At 10:01 AM 7/20/2017, you wrote:
>
> Another author who decouples the Second Amendment, ignoring the first half 
> pertaining to "A well regulated militia . . . "
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 8:16:36 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
>
> *We Need To Pass ‘Stand Your Ground’ In Every Stary State, Abolish 
> The BATFE, And Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws 
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com> *
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> We Need To Pass ‘Stand Your Ground•€™ In Every State, Abolish The 
> BATFE, And Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws Posted: 18 Jul 2017 07:50 PM 
> PDT
>
> [image: []] 
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/we-need-to-pass-stand-your-ground-in-every-state-abolish-the-batfe-and-repeal-the-major-federal-gun-laws/gun-girls-silhouette-public-domain#main>
>  
>   
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/we-need-to-pass-stand-your-ground-in-every-state-abolish-the-batfe-and-repeal-the-major-federal-gun-laws/gun-girls-silhouette-public-domain#main>Throughout
>  
> history, dictators and tyrants have always wanted to take guns away from 
> the people. Hitler confiscated guns once he took power in Germany, Stalin 
> confiscated guns in Soviet Russia, and Mao confiscated guns when the 
> communists took power in China. An armed population is one of the 
> cornerstones of a free society, and our founders understood this very well. 
> Unfortunately, most Americans don̢۪t seem em to understand the Second 
> Amendment in our day and time. The following is what the Second Amendment 
> actually says…¦
>
> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, 
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
>
> The phrase “shall not be infringedââ‚€ was intended to leave no room 
> for confusion. Unfortunately, all sorts of restrictions have been put on 
> our absolute right to keep and bear arms over time, and we need to fight to 
> fully restore our rights as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. A lot of 
> politicians say that they are “pro-gugun†, but most of them will only 
> go so far. To me, being “pro-gunâ†means that you should be fighting 
> to fully restore our Second Amendment rights. In particular, the following 
> are three areas where many “p“pro-gun†politicians are often quite 
> weak… #1 We Need Stand Your Ground Laws In All 50 States If you are not 
> familiar with “stand your grounund†laws, the following is how 
> Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law> defines 
> them…
>
> A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called “line in n the sand†or 
> “no duty to retreat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_toto_retreat>†
> law) is a justification 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_%28jurisprudence%29> in a 
> criminal case, whereby defendants can “stand their ground†and use 
> force without retreating, in order to protect and defend themselves or 
> others against threats or perceived threats. An example is where there is 
> no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be, and 
> that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat 
> rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious 
> bodily harm or death. One case 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawkins_v._State> describes “the 
> ‘stand your groundround’ law… a person has a right to to expect 
> absolute safety in a place they have a right to be, and may use deadly 
> force to repel an unlawful intruder.†[1] 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-youur-ground_law#cite_note-DS-1> Today, 
> 28 states have adopted “stand your grouound†laws formally, and a few 
> others have adopted “stand your groundâ†in practice. But even where 
> such laws have been passed formally, they are often way too weak. We need 
> very strong “stand your groundâ†laws in all 50 states, and we need 
> to keep fighting for this until we get it done. #2 We Need To Abolish The 
> BATFE The BATFE has been used as a political weapon for decades, and 
> there have been many instances where the authority that it has been given 
> has been greatly abused. The following example comes from Breitbart 
> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/03/report-atf-bypassing-restrictions-compile-information-u-s-gun-owners/>
> …
>
> A recently released Government Accountability Office (GAO) report shows 
> that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) 
> violated restrictions to compile information on U.S. gun owners. According 
> to the report, the ATF “has 25 fireaearms-related data systems, 16 of 
> which contain retail firearms purchaser information from a federal firearms 
> licensee (FFL)—such as firearms importers and retaillers.†Sixteen of 
> these systems contain â₂¬œretail firearms purchaser information,†as 
> it pertains to guns purchased froom a federal firearms license holder (FFL).
>
> Many have suggested reforming the BATFE, but I believe that the best 
> approach would be to abolish it altogether. If we fully restored Second 
> Amendment rights in this country there would be very little for this agency 
> to do anyway, and any essential functions could easily be taken over by 
> other federal law enforcement institutions.
> #3 We Need To Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws
> We have lived with some of these laws for so long that most people just 
> assume that they are constitutional. There are so many federal laws that 
> need to be repealed, but I think that a good place to start would be with 
> these four major ones 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States>… National 
> Firearms Act <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act> 
> (“NFA†) (1934)934): Taxes the manufacture and transfer of, and 
> mandates the registration of Title II weapons 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons> such as machine guns 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun>, short-barreled rifles 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-barreled_rifle> and shotguns, heavy 
> weapons, explosive ordnance, silencers 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor>, and disguised or improvised 
> firearms 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImprovised_firearms&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE4GrcE0i3J6T0HS6Wrrd5zudYWMw>.
>  
> Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Crime_Control_and_Safe_Streets_Act_of_1968>
>  
> (1968): Prohibited interstate 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce> trade in handguns 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handgun>, increased the minimum age to 21 
> for buying handguns. Gun Control Act of 1968 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968> (“GCA†): 
> Focusesuses primarily on regulating interstate commerce 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce> in firearms by 
> generally prohibiting interstate firearms transfers except among licensed 
> manufacturers, dealers and importers. Firearm Owners Protection Act 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act> 
> (“FOPA•€ ) (1986): Revised and partially repealed the Gun Control 
> Act of 1968. Prohibited the sale to civilians of automatic firearms 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm> manufactured after the 
> date of the law’™s passage. Required ATF approval of transfers of 
> automatic firearms. If I end up in Washington, I plan to work very 
> closely with the Gun Owners Of America <http://www.gunowners.org/>, the 
> Idaho Second Amendment Alliance <https://www.idahosaa.org/> and other 
> pro-gun groups to draft legislation which will fully restore our Second 
> Amendment rights.
> If you believe in what we are trying to do, I hope that you will support 
> us <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/contribute.html>. Whenever 
> the left takes power, they unashamedly try to advance their anti-gun 
> agenda. But when the right takes power, they seem to think that the status 
> quo is okay.
> The status quo is not okay, and now is the time to fight harder than ever 
> for the rights that are guaranteed to us by the Second Amendment.
>
> Michael Snyder <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/> is a 
> Republican candidate for Congress in Idaho‬™s First Congressional 
> District, and you can learn how you can get involved in the campaign on his 
> official 
> website <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/contribute.html>. His 
> new book entitled â€ÅÅ“Living A Life That Really Matters†
> <http://amzn.to/2t5bx4A>is available in paperback and for the Kindle on 
> Amazon.com <http://amzn.to/2t5bx4A>. [image: []] 
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On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 3:29:39 PM UTC-5, MJ wrote:
>
>
>
> Personal?
> I have no problems with English grammar, while you demonstrably do -- 
> hence the discussion which ensued.
>
> Again ...
> A *nominative absolute* is a noun phrase that begins or ends a sentence. 
> The phrase has no grammatical connection with the rest of the sentence. 
> Most *nominative *absolutes contain a participle or participial phrase 
> which modifies the noun or pronoun. 
>
> Let's make it simpler ...
>
> [BECAUSE] 
>
>
> *A well regulated Militia [is] necessary to the security of a free State, 
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. *Have 
> you ever diagrammed a sentence? THAT might aid you if you continue to have 
> difficulties.
>
> [image: Emacs!] 
>
>
>
> Professor Levy merely made substitutions in an effort to light the bulb.
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> "Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the 
> birth-right of an American." -- Pennsylvanian Trench Cox
>
>
>
>
>
> At 02:14 PM 7/20/2017, you wrote:
>
> Define "well regulated" as it applies to a militia.
>
> Professor Levy's quote applies to "a well-educated electorate," not a 
> "well regulated militia."Â  Apples and oranges. 
>
> Why are you attempting to make the discussion personal?
>
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:11:41 AM UTC-5, MJ wrote: You mean the 
> nominative absolute? You *do* grasp simple English grammar?
> Regard$, --MJ
> "A well-educated electorate being necessary for self-governance in a free 
> state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be 
> infringed." Is there anyone who would suggest that means only registered 
> voters have a right to read?" -- Robert Levy, Georgetown University 
> professor
>
>
>
>
> At 10:01 AM 7/20/2017, you wrote:
>
> Another author who decouples the Second Amendment, ignoring the first half 
> pertaining to "A well regulated militia . . . "
> On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 8:16:36 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
>
> *We Need To Pass ‘Stand Your Ground’ In Every Stary State, Abolish 
> The BATFE, And Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws 
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com> *
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> We Need To Pass ‘Stand Your Ground•€™ In Every State, Abolish The 
> BATFE, And Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws Posted: 18 Jul 2017 07:50 PM 
> PDT
>
> [image: []] 
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/we-need-to-pass-stand-your-ground-in-every-state-abolish-the-batfe-and-repeal-the-major-federal-gun-laws/gun-girls-silhouette-public-domain#main>
>  
>   
> <http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/we-need-to-pass-stand-your-ground-in-every-state-abolish-the-batfe-and-repeal-the-major-federal-gun-laws/gun-girls-silhouette-public-domain#main>Throughout
>  
> history, dictators and tyrants have always wanted to take guns away from 
> the people. Hitler confiscated guns once he took power in Germany, Stalin 
> confiscated guns in Soviet Russia, and Mao confiscated guns when the 
> communists took power in China. An armed population is one of the 
> cornerstones of a free society, and our founders understood this very well. 
> Unfortunately, most Americans don̢۪t seem em to understand the Second 
> Amendment in our day and time. The following is what the Second Amendment 
> actually says…¦
>
> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, 
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
>
> The phrase “shall not be infringedââ‚€ was intended to leave no room 
> for confusion. Unfortunately, all sorts of restrictions have been put on 
> our absolute right to keep and bear arms over time, and we need to fight to 
> fully restore our rights as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. A lot of 
> politicians say that they are “pro-gugun†, but most of them will only 
> go so far. To me, being “pro-gunâ†means that you should be fighting 
> to fully restore our Second Amendment rights. In particular, the following 
> are three areas where many “p“pro-gun†politicians are often quite 
> weak… #1 We Need Stand Your Ground Laws In All 50 States If you are not 
> familiar with “stand your grounund†laws, the following is how 
> Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law> defines 
> them…
>
> A stand-your-ground law (sometimes called “line in n the sand†or 
> “no duty to retreat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_toto_retreat>†
> law) is a justification 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_%28jurisprudence%29> in a 
> criminal case, whereby defendants can “stand their ground†and use 
> force without retreating, in order to protect and defend themselves or 
> others against threats or perceived threats. An example is where there is 
> no duty to retreat from any place where they have a lawful right to be, and 
> that they may use any level of force if they reasonably believe the threat 
> rises to the level of being an imminent and immediate threat of serious 
> bodily harm or death. One case 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawkins_v._State> describes “the 
> ‘stand your groundround’ law… a person has a right to to expect 
> absolute safety in a place they have a right to be, and may use deadly 
> force to repel an unlawful intruder.†[1] 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-youur-ground_law#cite_note-DS-1> Today, 
> 28 states have adopted “stand your grouound†laws formally, and a few 
> others have adopted “stand your groundâ†in practice. But even where 
> such laws have been passed formally, they are often way too weak. We need 
> very strong “stand your groundâ†laws in all 50 states, and we need 
> to keep fighting for this until we get it done. #2 We Need To Abolish The 
> BATFE The BATFE has been used as a political weapon for decades, and 
> there have been many instances where the authority that it has been given 
> has been greatly abused. The following example comes from Breitbart 
> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/03/report-atf-bypassing-restrictions-compile-information-u-s-gun-owners/>
> …
>
> A recently released Government Accountability Office (GAO) report shows 
> that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) 
> violated restrictions to compile information on U.S. gun owners. According 
> to the report, the ATF “has 25 fireaearms-related data systems, 16 of 
> which contain retail firearms purchaser information from a federal firearms 
> licensee (FFL)—such as firearms importers and retaillers.†Sixteen of 
> these systems contain â₂¬œretail firearms purchaser information,†as 
> it pertains to guns purchased froom a federal firearms license holder (FFL).
>
> Many have suggested reforming the BATFE, but I believe that the best 
> approach would be to abolish it altogether. If we fully restored Second 
> Amendment rights in this country there would be very little for this agency 
> to do anyway, and any essential functions could easily be taken over by 
> other federal law enforcement institutions.
> #3 We Need To Repeal The Major Federal Gun Laws
> We have lived with some of these laws for so long that most people just 
> assume that they are constitutional. There are so many federal laws that 
> need to be repealed, but I think that a good place to start would be with 
> these four major ones 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States>… National 
> Firearms Act <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act> 
> (“NFA†) (1934)934): Taxes the manufacture and transfer of, and 
> mandates the registration of Title II weapons 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons> such as machine guns 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun>, short-barreled rifles 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-barreled_rifle> and shotguns, heavy 
> weapons, explosive ordnance, silencers 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor>, and disguised or improvised 
> firearms 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FImprovised_firearms&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE4GrcE0i3J6T0HS6Wrrd5zudYWMw>.
>  
> Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Crime_Control_and_Safe_Streets_Act_of_1968>
>  
> (1968): Prohibited interstate 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce> trade in handguns 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handgun>, increased the minimum age to 21 
> for buying handguns. Gun Control Act of 1968 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968> (“GCA†): 
> Focusesuses primarily on regulating interstate commerce 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce> in firearms by 
> generally prohibiting interstate firearms transfers except among licensed 
> manufacturers, dealers and importers. Firearm Owners Protection Act 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act> 
> (“FOPA•€ ) (1986): Revised and partially repealed the Gun Control 
> Act of 1968. Prohibited the sale to civilians of automatic firearms 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm> manufactured after the 
> date of the law’™s passage. Required ATF approval of transfers of 
> automatic firearms. If I end up in Washington, I plan to work very 
> closely with the Gun Owners Of America <http://www.gunowners.org/>, the 
> Idaho Second Amendment Alliance <https://www.idahosaa.org/> and other 
> pro-gun groups to draft legislation which will fully restore our Second 
> Amendment rights.
> If you believe in what we are trying to do, I hope that you will support 
> us <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/contribute.html>. Whenever 
> the left takes power, they unashamedly try to advance their anti-gun 
> agenda. But when the right takes power, they seem to think that the status 
> quo is okay.
> The status quo is not okay, and now is the time to fight harder than ever 
> for the rights that are guaranteed to us by the Second Amendment.
>
> Michael Snyder <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/> is a 
> Republican candidate for Congress in Idaho‬™s First Congressional 
> District, and you can learn how you can get involved in the campaign on his 
> official 
> website <https://www.michaelsnyderforcongress.com/contribute.html>. His 
> new book entitled â€ÅÅ“Living A Life That Really Matters†
> <http://amzn.to/2t5bx4A>is available in paperback and for the Kindle on 
> Amazon.com <http://amzn.to/2t5bx4A>. [image: []] 
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