of course it is racist. when you have 98% of the blacks voting for their boy, what else would you call it?
On Nov 12, 3:12 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> No one thinks Americans are racist. The election wasn't about race--exits > >>> polls showed that the main issues upon which Americans voted > > were economics and international policy. > > Now this is funny... The sad part is Europeans and Arabs think they > are LESS prejudiced about tribe, race, class, or religion than > Americans... They must as it put hot air in the puffed up ideas about > the equality in the neck of the woods... The fact is Europe and the > ME have a far greater problem with such prejudices, for one thing they > are in denial... > > On Nov 12, 2:57 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No one thinks Americans are racist. The election wasn't about race-- > > exits polls showed that the main issues upon which Americans voted > > were economics and international policy. > > > "Virtually without exception, liberal commentators and “left” > > political tendencies have ignored or downplayed all such indications > > that Obama intends to pursue a conservative course and reject anything > > that suggests a more democratic and egalitarian restructuring of > > American capitalism. This has been facilitated by their interpretation > > of the election almost entirely in racial terms. The obsession with > > race, which for 40 years has been the mainstay of liberal politics in > > America, has, if anything, been accentuated in the aftermath of the > > election. > > > This is despite the fact that the election was a powerful refutation > > of the portrayal of American working people as racist, backward and > > hopelessly in the thrall of religion and conservative “values”—a > > political myth that assumed the status of an unassailable truth after > > the reelection of Bush in 2004. > > > Typical is the column in the Sunday New York Times by Frank Rich, > > which begins, “On the morning after a black man won the White House, > > America’s tears of catharsis gave way to unadulterated joy.” Rich > > notes approvingly that the election disproved what “we’ve been told by > > those in power… that we are small, bigoted and stupid—easily divided > > and easily frightened.” He then makes the significant admission that > > “We heard this slander of America so often that we all started to > > believe it, liberals most certainly included.” > > > It is obvious that Rich, speaking for liberals in general, employs the > > same superficial impressionism, buttressed by an obsession with race, > > that led him to buy into the old illusions in order to embrace a new > > one—that Obama represents a new dawn of democracy and progress in > > America. > > > It is legitimate to recognize that the vote for Obama would not have > > been possible were it not for the fact that social attitudes in > > America have changed profoundly over the past 50 years—something that > > was for all practical purposes denied by Rich and his fellow liberals. > > Nor is there any doubt that the movement to the left of broad sections > > of the working class overcame any hesitations linked to the lingering > > influence of racial attitudes. > > > But there is a disturbing undercurrent in the response of Rich and > > other liberal and “left” commentators to the election. For them, it is > > all about race, and not about the social sentiments, policy questions > > and class issues that actually determined the outcome. They define the > > election as the victory of a black man, not the result of a wave of > > popular opposition to Bush and a Republican administration that lifted > > a candidate into the White House who happens to be black. > > > This indicates that Rich and others of his political stripe will be > > prepared to tolerate policies that they considered unacceptable under > > Bush when they are carried out by Obama—which was precisely the point > > of the promotion of Obama by his establishment backers. To the extent > > that Obama is able to exploit his identity to politically disarm > > workers, his administration becomes all the more dangerous to the > > social interests of the working class. > > > What happens when the working class begins to fight for its social > > interests and comes into conflict with an Obama administration, when > > the class nature of the Obama administration is revealed and workers > > come forward to oppose it? Then the class basis of liberalism as a > > political standpoint of a section of the bourgeoisie and the petty- > > bourgeoisie will be revealed, and its fundamentally reactionary nature > > exposed." > > > On Nov 13, 6:49 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > or is it the rest of the world racism and the lack of racism there an > > > Urban Myth as well??? The MSM made it to be the US and fed into the > > > storyline that the rest of the world was not... The shame is perhaps > > > it is the reverse that is true... > > > > Many in the extreme LW and RW America refuse to seek out, or > > > comprehend the totality of American Exceptional ism... The LW by > > > denying that there is the good and generous American Nature, the RW by > > > seeking to limit the extension of that nature... > > > > Perhaps the majority of the problem lays iwith the rest of the world > > > wishing to deceive itself... > > > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iraqis-watch-us-elections-with-admiration/ > > > > >>. mericans, especially those who are used to voting for Republicans, > > > >>have demonstrated their patriotism and their adherence to what America > > > >>stands for. People in the Middle East are amazed by the large number of > > > >>white people and Republican voters who voted for the “other.” America — > > > >>who is always accused of racism — has shown us that in fact our > > > >>countries in the Middle East are where racism flourishes. We didn’t > > > >>choose that, but it’s the rule of tyranny and repression that uses > > > >>hatred and intolerance to further itself. > > > > It is liberty and democracy that allowed America to become the great > > > humane and mature nation that she is. It’s days like November 4 that > > > make people in the Middle East yearn for answers to questions like: > > > When will we see a Copt become president in Egypt? When will we see a > > > Kurd become president in Turkey? Will we ever see Iran led by someone > > > who isn’t Shiite? > > > > Throughout her relatively short history, America has always been the > > > nation to spearhead progress. Indeed, America became the leader of > > > human civilization, surpassing other nations whose histories stretch > > > over millennia. > > > > The victory is for whites and blacks and for Republicans and > > > Democrats; it’s America’s victory. America presented a rare example > > > that other nations aren’t familiar with — a magnificent case of > > > bringing down the walls of partisanship and race for the sake of the > > > country. In our part of the world, immigrants are refugees, and they > > > and their offspring are destined to remain inferior and despised for > > > as long as they live. Not so in America. > > > > Even more amazing was the scene of losing leaders saluting the winner > > > with utmost sincerity and graciousness. In my opinion, McCain’s speech > > > was more powerful and moving than Obama’s. I wish our leaders in the > > > Middle East enjoyed half the courage of America’s leaders to > > > acknowledge loss when they experience it and respect the winners. > > > > Finally, I would like to take off my hat for the man who’s leaving the > > > White House: President George Bush, the liberator of Iraq. Invading > > > Iraq was a sound decision in spite of the mistakes that were made. He > > > and Senator McCain, whose surge strategy saved Iraq from slipping down > > > the brink of civil war, will be remembered as heroes by millions of > > > freedom-loving Iraqis. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
