gaar, Fine. Give me the e-mail address of the author of the original article and I'll be happy to adress my comment to him. Lacking that, i guess I'm pretty much stuck with addressing the person who posted said article, aren't I?
If the goal of Travis was to simply stimulate debate/conversation then he succeded, i commented. So where's the problem. Who said i didn't like Travis? Why i just ADORE the simple-minded old hick. I used to live in Little Rock also, we both drive Lincolns, LOVE the guy. What blame? I merely pointed out the obvious. You judge me too harshly. On Nov 12, 8:00 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many people may feel inclined to postan article that does not > accurately represent their own viewpoint, in order to start a > discussion. > > Not sure why you would feel the need to blame the poster for such an > error, simply because you don't like the poster? > > On Nov 12, 5:51 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > Don't fucking care, he posted it and used it as the thread title. > > Something requires him to title the thread with the title of an > > article he is using to support a particular viewpoint? Nooooooo > > > Needle-dicked bug fucker. > > > (Sorry, I'm just getting bored with mundane insults like idiot, moron, > > hypocrite,etc. etc.) Another thing to not like about conservative > > Republicans; no imagination, no panache, no flair. > > > On Nov 12, 7:36 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not sure, but I don't think Travis wrote the Headline... > > > > Idiot. > > > > On Nov 12, 5:25 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Travis, > > > > > Religions and people other than Christians "have Faith"........hick. > > > > > On Nov 12, 7:08 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > From: Travis > > > > > Subject: "How People of Faith Voted in the 2008 Presidential Race" > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, > > > > > > The ignorant fools! They don't know what they've done! > > > > > > May God have mercy on the USA! > > > > > > <http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdates> > > > > > Image courtesy of istockphoto. click for info > > > > > <http://www.istockphoto.com/> > > > > > Page Tools > > > > > > <http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=Subscribe> > > > > > <http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&BarnaUpdate...> > > > > > > How People of Faith Voted in the 2008 Presidential Race > > > > > November 11, 2008 (Ventura, California) - With the nation's longest > > > > > election campaign ever finally completed, and Barack Obama emerging > > > > > as a 53% > > > > > to 46% victor over Sen. John McCain, a new election analysis survey > > > > > by The > > > > > Barna Group provides the details of how people of faith voted in 2008. > > > > > *Obsession > > > > > or Sport?* News about the candidates and the election seemed > > > > > ubiquitous for > > > > > the past 18 months. Overall, two-thirds of all registered voters > > > > > (67%) said > > > > > they followed the 2008 election campaign "very closely" and another > > > > > one-quarter (27%) followed it "somewhat closely." People who do not > > > > > consider > > > > > themselves to be Christians followed the campaign slightly more > > > > > closely than > > > > > did those who claim to be Christian (71% versus 67%). To place that > > > > > interest > > > > > level in context, the 2000 election between George W. Bush and Al > > > > > Gore, > > > > > which ended in a dead heat, was followed "very closely" by just 43% of > > > > > registered voters. *Evangelicals* Evangelicals are a small proportion > > > > > of the > > > > > national population - just 7% of all adults. But they tend to capture > > > > > the > > > > > imagination and attention of the national media and political > > > > > pundits. The > > > > > survey data consistently show that evangelical Christians have among > > > > > the > > > > > highest rates of voting turnout among all voter groups and are, in > > > > > fact, > > > > > strikingly different from the rest of the population - even from > > > > > other born > > > > > again Christians who are not evangelical. As was true in the past two > > > > > presidential elections, two-thirds of all evangelicals who were > > > > > registered > > > > > to vote (65%) were aligned with the Republican Party. One out of five > > > > > (21%) > > > > > was Democrats and just one out of ten (10%) was registered > > > > > independent of a > > > > > party. That puts evangelicals at odds with the national voter > > > > > profile, which > > > > > shows a plurality of Democrats (42%), one-third Republican (34%) and > > > > > two out > > > > > of ten (20%) independent of a party affiliation. Most remarkably, > > > > > however, > > > > > was the overwhelming support registered among evangelicals for > > > > > Republican > > > > > candidate John McCain. In total, 88% voted for Sen. McCain, compared > > > > > to just > > > > > 11% for Sen. Obama. The 88% is statistically identical to the 85% of > > > > > evangelicals who backed George W. Bush in 2004. Surveys conducted by > > > > > Barna > > > > > throughout the campaign season showed that evangelicals were not > > > > > enthusiastic about either candidate, but on Election Day evangelicals > > > > > came > > > > > through in a big way for the most conservative major candidate on the > > > > > ballot. Evangelicals chose their candidate on a different set of > > > > > indicators > > > > > than did other voters. When asked their primary reason for supporting > > > > > the > > > > > candidate they selected, 40% of evangelicals said it was because of > > > > > the > > > > > candidate's position on moral issues. Only 9% of other voters listed > > > > > that as > > > > > their driving reason. Other significant reasons for evangelical voters > > > > > included their candidate's political experience (23%) and his > > > > > character > > > > > (15%). Unlike other polls, Barna surveys classify a person as an > > > > > evangelical > > > > > based upon their answers to nine questions about their theological > > > > > beliefs. > > > > > Most national surveys simply ask people if they consider themselves > > > > > to be > > > > > evangelical, born again or a committed conservative Christian. As a > > > > > result, > > > > > evangelicals in Barna surveys are significantly different than the > > > > > groups > > > > > reported in other surveys. For the sake of comparison, the Barna > > > > > survey also > > > > > examined the voting behavior of people who identified themselves as > > > > > evangelicals. The self-identified evangelicals represented 41% of the > > > > > adult > > > > > population, although just 16% of them qualified as evangelicals under > > > > > the > > > > > Barna Group's theological-based classification questions. Among the > > > > > self-described evangelicals, 61% voted for Sen. McCain and 38% went > > > > > with > > > > > Sen. Obama. (For information about the Barna classification process, > > > > > see the > > > > > "About the Research" section at the end of this article.) *Born Again > > > > > Christians* Evangelicals represent just one out of every six born > > > > > again > > > > > adults. The survey data among all born again adults found that they > > > > > were > > > > > much more likely to vote for Sen. McCain (57% did so) than for Sen. > > > > > Obama > > > > > (42%). As substantial as that margin is, the 15-point gap was > > > > > considerably > > > > > less than the 24-point margin accorded to George W. Bush in his 2004 > > > > > campaign against Sen. John Kerry. However, it is identical to the > > > > > 15-point > > > > > spread they gave to Mr. Bush in 2000, and more than double the 6-point > > > > > margin they gave Sen. Bob Dole in his 1996 loss to Democratic > > > > > incumbent Bill > > > > > Clinton. However, born again Christians in general chose their > > > > > candidate > > > > > based on different criteria than did evangelicals. The major > > > > > motivations > > > > > among born again Christians who are not evangelical were political > > > > > experience (20%), ideas about the country's future (18%), character > > > > > (17%), > > > > > and economic policies (17%). To highlight the contrast in priorities, > > > > > note > > > > > that just 7% of evangelicals identified economic policy as a > > > > > motivator, and > > > > > only 8% of the non-evangelical born again Christians listed the > > > > > candidate's > > > > > positions on moral issues. Many observers were surprised to discover > > > > > that > > > > > born again Christians, who are about 43% of the adult population, > > > > > were just > > > > > as likely to be registered as Democrats as Republicans. At the time > > > > > of the > > > > > election, 39% of registered voters who were born again identified > > > > > themselves > > > > > as Democrats, 41% as Republicans, and 16% as independents. *Voters > > > > > Outside > > > > > the Born Again Universe* The majority of the population is not born > > > > > again > > > > > Christians. Among them a much higher proportion was registered as > > > > > either > > > > > Democrats (44%) or independents (24%) than was true among the born > > > > > again > > > > > segment. Barely one-quarter of the non-born again group (27%) was > > > > > Republicans. Non-Christians provided Sen. Obama with a lopsided 62% > > > > > to 36% > > > > > margin of preference over Sen. McCain. That 26-point gap surpassed the > > > > > 20-point margin the group provided to John Kerry in 2004 and the > > > > > 15-point > > > > > margin awarded to Al Gore in 2000. This shift came primarily from > > > > > those > > > > > non-born again adults who have moderate social and political views. > > > > > The > > > > > non-born again constituency was motivated to support their candidate > > > > > of > > > > > choice largely because of his ideas about the future (28%), economic > > > > > policies (16%) and political experience (15%). *Protestants and > > > > > Catholics* Protestant > > > > > voters were evenly split between being registered as Democrats and > > > > > Republicans. However, they sided with Sen. McCain by a 53% to 46% > > > > > split. > > > > > That 7-point gap was just half the margin accorded to George W. Bush > > > > > in 2004 > > > > > (57% to 42%), but within range of the 4-point preference given to Mr. > > > > > Bush > > > > > in 2000 (51% to 47%). Nearly half of all registered Catholics were > > > > > aligned > > > > > with the Democratic Party (48%), compared to only about one-quarter > > > > > associated with the Republicans (28%) and one-fifth who remained > > > > > independent > > > > > (20%). Their voting behavior was significantly different than that of > > > > > Protestants: they backed Sen. Obama by a 56% to 43% outcome. That was > > > > > far > > > > > different than the even split in 2004 (49% for Pres. Bush vs. 49% for > > > > > Sen. > > > > > Kerry) and substantially more support for the Democratic candidate > > > > > than they > > > > > had given to Al Gore in 2000 (49%, versus 43% to Mr. Bush). *Atheists > > > > > and > > > > > Agnostics* The second largest faith group in America, trailing only > > > > > the > > > > > Christian segment, is atheists and agnostics. These religious skeptics > > > > > represent about one out of every ten adults. 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