America has a history of noisey debates- pulpits and politics. Why edit? Have we not an educated citizenry that can detect falsehoods? We don't. We have herds of hysterics.
On Nov 19, 5:07 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I thought that the Constitution guaranteed every person the right > to express their opinion, even if it is wrong.However, once you prove > that you are wrong, (by expressing it,) don't be surprised if your > public learns to ignore. Access to the air waves needs to be edited, > at least to avoid it all from simply becoming noise. > As long as people listen to them, shock jocks will have no difficulty > in finding employment. The basis of commercial media is that it is the > listener that is the product that is being sold to the advertisers. > The programming is simply the bait to attract the listener. > > On Nov 19, 3:21 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > "murky is a socialist " > > i take it you meant me and misspelled my name . and all i can say to > > the claim that i am a socialist is thank you ! i would prefer liberal > > socialist but i will settle for either one . > > On Nov 18, 5:57 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > murky is a socialist. murky is waiting in line to join up with > > > nobama's new gestapo. trying to reason and use facts with murky is a > > > total and complete waste of time. he is too busy drinking his koolaid > > > laced with wild turkey. he will never admit, despite overwhelming > > > evidence, that the unfairness doctrine is designed for one purpose. > > > to silence conservative talk radio, the voice of opposition to the > > > fourth reich. > > > > On Nov 18, 5:16 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I never once....while AirAmerica was on the air.....EVER heard you > > > > demand that they give equal access to conservative points of view. > > > > > Personally, I don't listen to talk radio. NPR is all I listen to. But > > > > I don't have a problem with it. I listened to AirAmerica while it was > > > > on the air....and in my opinion, it was just as skewed as right wing > > > > radio.....but I didn't have a problem with them then....and I don't > > > > with right wing radio now. I just choose not to listen to it. If Rush > > > > was made to allow opposing views on his show, I still wouldn't listen > > > > to it. But if a radion station makes money off of it, more power to > > > > them. > > > > > You know full well that if shows were made to air opposing views, > > > > listenership would suffer....and many shows wouldn't make the > > > > financial cut. Furthermore, what you are demanding is that some people > > > > be allowed to air for free what others have to pay for.....hardly > > > > fair. > > > > > You want a fairness doctrine? How about this: you can say what ever > > > > you want on anyone's program....but you have to pay for your share of > > > > air time. THAT would be fair. > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > i always discus things honestly ! > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:22 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh....can you name a media source that doesn't have a fee? Web > > > > > > access > > > > > > requires a fee...as does a domain. Want to air your grievances in > > > > > > the > > > > > > NYT? You have to buy an ad to guarantee it makes copy. They don't > > > > > > print all letters to the editor. TV? Should the Colbert Report have > > > > > > to > > > > > > give equal access to conservative commentary? For free? > > > > > > > As I've said.....ad nauseum....regarding this conversation you > > > > > > insist > > > > > > on bringing up again and again....you aren't willing to discuss this > > > > > > topic honestly. > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:14 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > so you support free speech only for those who can pay for it ? > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:09 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anyone who wants to air a program can do so. Period. Put up the > > > > > > > > cash, > > > > > > > > and air your program to your heart's delight. Right, left, it > > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > matter. As such, free speech does prevail. > > > > > > > > > You cannot cite me one instance of a station denying access > > > > > > > > based on > > > > > > > > anything other than unwillingness on the part of the programmer > > > > > > > > to pay > > > > > > > > the price. > > > > > > > > > Again, had AirAmerica been successful, we wouldn't be having > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > discussion. They were poorly managed, and even more poorly > > > > > > > > marketed. > > > > > > > > End of story. You lose. Again. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:06 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [ The entire premise of this thread is false. ] > > > > > > > > > you are against free speech for all ? > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:01 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > All talk shows are supposed to be fair and evenhanded? > > > > > > > > > > According to > > > > > > > > > > who? You? > > > > > > > > > > > Ever listen to NPR? Their gardening shows cater to people > > > > > > > > > > who like to > > > > > > > > > > garden. Their news shows are for people who like news. > > > > > > > > > > Their call-in > > > > > > > > > > shows like Car Talk and Kim Commando cater to car lovers > > > > > > > > > > and software/ > > > > > > > > > > computer geeks. Should they be forced to field calls about > > > > > > > > > > plumbing? > > > > > > > > > > Talk radio caters to a particular crowd. When AirAmerica > > > > > > > > > > was on the > > > > > > > > > > air, they sure as hell didn't give fair time to > > > > > > > > > > conservatives....did > > > > > > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > The entire premise of this thread is false. > > > > > > > > > > > You really need to let this topic go. You argue from a > > > > > > > > > > dishonest point > > > > > > > > > > of view. As such, any further threads initiated by you will > > > > > > > > > > drip with > > > > > > > > > > your usual bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 4:35 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Former News Radio Staffer Spills the Beans on How Shock > > > > > > > > > > > Jocks Inspire > > > > > > > > > > > Hatred and > > > > > > > > > > > Angerhttp://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/107326/ > > > > > > > > > > > I first got into journalism because I thought I could > > > > > > > > > > > make a > > > > > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote for the school newspaper and did “news” reports > > > > > > > > > > > on a radio > > > > > > > > > > > station a friend and I started at my high school in > > > > > > > > > > > Springfield, Mo. I > > > > > > > > > > > got my first professional job at age 20, while still in > > > > > > > > > > > college, at a > > > > > > > > > > > local radio station’s news department. Three years later, > > > > > > > > > > > I became a > > > > > > > > > > > news director, and 12 years after that, in 1995, I was > > > > > > > > > > > recruited to > > > > > > > > > > > move to Milwaukee to become news director at WTMJ, one of > > > > > > > > > > > the largest > > > > > > > > > > > and most successful news/talk radio stations in America. > > > > > > > > > > > > That was where my real education occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > I worked for three years as news director, and then, in > > > > > > > > > > > 1998, gained > > > > > > > > > > > the additional title of assistant program director, a > > > > > > > > > > > role I held > > > > > > > > > > > until leaving the station in July 2006. From that > > > > > > > > > > > position, I worked > > > > > > > > > > > closely with our talk show hosts and became intimately > > > > > > > > > > > familiar with > > > > > > > > > > > how they appeal to listeners and shape their vision of > > > > > > > > > > > the world. Let > > > > > > > > > > > me tell you some of the lessons I learned. > > > > > > > > > > > > To begin with, talk show hosts such as Charlie Sykes – > > > > > > > > > > > one of the best > > > > > > > > > > > in the business – are popular and powerful because they > > > > > > > > > > > appeal to a > > > > > > > > > > > segment of the population that feels disenfranchised and > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > victimized by the media. These people believe the media > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > predominantly staffed by and consistently reflect the > > > > > > > > > > > views of social > > > > > > > > > > > liberals. This view is by now so long-held and > > > > > > > > > > > deep-rooted, it has > > > > > > > > > > > evolved into part of virtually every conservative’s DNA. > > > > > > > > > > > > To succeed, a talk show host must perpetuate the notion > > > > > > > > > > > that his or > > > > > > > > > > > her listeners are victims, and the host is the vehicle by > > > > > > > > > > > which they > > > > > > > > > > > can become empowered. The host frames virtually every > > > > > > > > > > > issue in us- > > > > > > > > > > > versus-them terms. There has to be a bad guy against whom > > > > > > > > > > > the host > > > > > > > > > > > will emphatically defend those loyal listeners. > > > > > > > > > > > > This enemy can be a politician – either a Democratic > > > > > > > > > > > officeholder or, > > > > > > > > > > > in rare cases where no Democrat is convenient to blame, > > > > > > > > > > > it can be a > > > > > > > > > > > “RINO” (a “Republican In Name Only,” who is deemed not > > > > > > > > > > > conservative > > > > > > > > > > > enough). It can be the cold, cruel government > > > > > > > > > > > bureaucracy. More often > > > > > > > > > > > than not, however, the enemy is the “mainstream media” – > > > > > > > > > > > local or > > > > > > > > > > > national, print or broadcast. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, it can even be their own station’s news > > > > > > > > > > > director. One year, > > > > > > > > > > > Charlie targeted me because I had instructed my midday > > > > > > > > > > > news anchor to > > > > > > > > > > > report the Wimbledon tennis results, even though the > > > > > > > > > > > matches wouldn’t > > > > > > > > > > > be telecast until much later in the day. Charlie gave out > > > > > > > > > > > my phone > > > > > > > > > > > number and e-mail address on the air. I was flooded with > > > > > > > > > > > hate mail, > > > > > > > > > > > nasty messages, and even one death threat from a federal > > > > > > > > > > > law > > > > > > > > > > > enforcement agent whom I knew to be a big Charlie fan. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the talk radio business, this concept, which must be > > > > > > > > > > > mastered to be > > > > > > > > > > > successful, is called “differentiating” yourself from the > > > > > > > > > > > rest of the > > > > > > > > > > > media. It is a brilliant marketing tactic that has also > > > > > > > > > > > helped Fox > > > > > > > > > > > News Channel thrive. “We report, you decide” and “Fair > > > > > > > > > > > and Balanced” > > > > > > > > > > > are more than just savvy slogans. They are code words > > > > > > > > > > > signaling that > > > > > > > > > > > only Fox will report the news in a way conservatives see > > > > > > > > > > > as > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
