murky is a socialist. murky is waiting in line to join up with nobama's new gestapo. trying to reason and use facts with murky is a total and complete waste of time. he is too busy drinking his koolaid laced with wild turkey. he will never admit, despite overwhelming evidence, that the unfairness doctrine is designed for one purpose. to silence conservative talk radio, the voice of opposition to the fourth reich.
On Nov 18, 5:16 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never once....while AirAmerica was on the air.....EVER heard you > demand that they give equal access to conservative points of view. > > Personally, I don't listen to talk radio. NPR is all I listen to. But > I don't have a problem with it. I listened to AirAmerica while it was > on the air....and in my opinion, it was just as skewed as right wing > radio.....but I didn't have a problem with them then....and I don't > with right wing radio now. I just choose not to listen to it. If Rush > was made to allow opposing views on his show, I still wouldn't listen > to it. But if a radion station makes money off of it, more power to > them. > > You know full well that if shows were made to air opposing views, > listenership would suffer....and many shows wouldn't make the > financial cut. Furthermore, what you are demanding is that some people > be allowed to air for free what others have to pay for.....hardly > fair. > > You want a fairness doctrine? How about this: you can say what ever > you want on anyone's program....but you have to pay for your share of > air time. THAT would be fair. > > On Nov 18, 4:31 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > i always discus things honestly ! > > > On Nov 18, 4:22 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Oh....can you name a media source that doesn't have a fee? Web access > > > requires a fee...as does a domain. Want to air your grievances in the > > > NYT? You have to buy an ad to guarantee it makes copy. They don't > > > print all letters to the editor. TV? Should the Colbert Report have to > > > give equal access to conservative commentary? For free? > > > > As I've said.....ad nauseum....regarding this conversation you insist > > > on bringing up again and again....you aren't willing to discuss this > > > topic honestly. > > > > On Nov 18, 4:14 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > so you support free speech only for those who can pay for it ? > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:09 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone who wants to air a program can do so. Period. Put up the cash, > > > > > and air your program to your heart's delight. Right, left, it doesn't > > > > > matter. As such, free speech does prevail. > > > > > > You cannot cite me one instance of a station denying access based on > > > > > anything other than unwillingness on the part of the programmer to pay > > > > > the price. > > > > > > Again, had AirAmerica been successful, we wouldn't be having this > > > > > discussion. They were poorly managed, and even more poorly marketed. > > > > > End of story. You lose. Again. > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:06 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > [ The entire premise of this thread is false. ] > > > > > > you are against free speech for all ? > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 4:01 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > All talk shows are supposed to be fair and evenhanded? According > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > who? You? > > > > > > > > Ever listen to NPR? Their gardening shows cater to people who > > > > > > > like to > > > > > > > garden. Their news shows are for people who like news. Their > > > > > > > call-in > > > > > > > shows like Car Talk and Kim Commando cater to car lovers and > > > > > > > software/ > > > > > > > computer geeks. Should they be forced to field calls about > > > > > > > plumbing? > > > > > > > Talk radio caters to a particular crowd. When AirAmerica was on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > air, they sure as hell didn't give fair time to > > > > > > > conservatives....did > > > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > The entire premise of this thread is false. > > > > > > > > You really need to let this topic go. You argue from a dishonest > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > of view. As such, any further threads initiated by you will drip > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > your usual bullshit. > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 4:35 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Former News Radio Staffer Spills the Beans on How Shock Jocks > > > > > > > > Inspire > > > > > > > > Hatred and Angerhttp://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/107326/ > > > > > > > > I first got into journalism because I thought I could make a > > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > > I wrote for the school newspaper and did “news” reports on a > > > > > > > > radio > > > > > > > > station a friend and I started at my high school in > > > > > > > > Springfield, Mo. I > > > > > > > > got my first professional job at age 20, while still in > > > > > > > > college, at a > > > > > > > > local radio station’s news department. Three years later, I > > > > > > > > became a > > > > > > > > news director, and 12 years after that, in 1995, I was > > > > > > > > recruited to > > > > > > > > move to Milwaukee to become news director at WTMJ, one of the > > > > > > > > largest > > > > > > > > and most successful news/talk radio stations in America. > > > > > > > > > That was where my real education occurred. > > > > > > > > > I worked for three years as news director, and then, in 1998, > > > > > > > > gained > > > > > > > > the additional title of assistant program director, a role I > > > > > > > > held > > > > > > > > until leaving the station in July 2006. From that position, I > > > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > > closely with our talk show hosts and became intimately familiar > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > how they appeal to listeners and shape their vision of the > > > > > > > > world. Let > > > > > > > > me tell you some of the lessons I learned. > > > > > > > > > To begin with, talk show hosts such as Charlie Sykes – one of > > > > > > > > the best > > > > > > > > in the business – are popular and powerful because they appeal > > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > segment of the population that feels disenfranchised and even > > > > > > > > victimized by the media. These people believe the media are > > > > > > > > predominantly staffed by and consistently reflect the views of > > > > > > > > social > > > > > > > > liberals. This view is by now so long-held and deep-rooted, it > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > evolved into part of virtually every conservative’s DNA. > > > > > > > > > To succeed, a talk show host must perpetuate the notion that > > > > > > > > his or > > > > > > > > her listeners are victims, and the host is the vehicle by which > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > can become empowered. The host frames virtually every issue in > > > > > > > > us- > > > > > > > > versus-them terms. There has to be a bad guy against whom the > > > > > > > > host > > > > > > > > will emphatically defend those loyal listeners. > > > > > > > > > This enemy can be a politician – either a Democratic > > > > > > > > officeholder or, > > > > > > > > in rare cases where no Democrat is convenient to blame, it can > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > “RINO” (a “Republican In Name Only,” who is deemed not > > > > > > > > conservative > > > > > > > > enough). It can be the cold, cruel government bureaucracy. More > > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > than not, however, the enemy is the “mainstream media” – local > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > national, print or broadcast. > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, it can even be their own station’s news director. > > > > > > > > One year, > > > > > > > > Charlie targeted me because I had instructed my midday news > > > > > > > > anchor to > > > > > > > > report the Wimbledon tennis results, even though the matches > > > > > > > > wouldn’t > > > > > > > > be telecast until much later in the day. Charlie gave out my > > > > > > > > phone > > > > > > > > number and e-mail address on the air. I was flooded with hate > > > > > > > > mail, > > > > > > > > nasty messages, and even one death threat from a federal law > > > > > > > > enforcement agent whom I knew to be a big Charlie fan. > > > > > > > > > In the talk radio business, this concept, which must be > > > > > > > > mastered to be > > > > > > > > successful, is called “differentiating” yourself from the rest > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > media. It is a brilliant marketing tactic that has also helped > > > > > > > > Fox > > > > > > > > News Channel thrive. “We report, you decide” and “Fair and > > > > > > > > Balanced” > > > > > > > > are more than just savvy slogans. They are code words signaling > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > only Fox will report the news in a way conservatives see as > > > > > > > > objective > > > > > > > > and truthful. > > > > > > > > > Forget any notion, however, that radio talk shows are supposed > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > fair, evenhanded discussions featuring a diversity of opinions. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > Fairness Doctrine, which required this, was repealed 20 years > > > > > > > > ago. So > > > > > > > > talk shows can be, and are, all about the host’s opinions, > > > > > > > > analyses > > > > > > > > and general worldview. Programmers learned long ago that benign > > > > > > > > conversations led by hosts who present all sides of an issue > > > > > > > > don’t > > > > > > > > attract large audiences. That’s why Kathleen Dunn was forced > > > > > > > > out at > > > > > > > > WTMJ in the early ’90s and why Jim and Andee were replaced in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mid-’90s by Dr. Laura. Pointed and provocative are what win. > > > > > > > > > There is no way to win a disagreement with Charlie Sykes. Calls > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > listeners who disagree with him don’t get on the air if the > > > > > > > > show’s > > > > > > > > producer, who generally does the screening, fears they might > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > Charlie look bad. I witnessed several occasions when Sen. 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