finally an honest and insightful response thank you ! that dosen't
happen very often on this forum .

On Nov 24, 7:44 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that Mike may just be quite correct,about the Bush ancestors.
> If you check a book by Bill Stevenson "a man called Intrepid, and
> Intrepid's last case" there was a strong case to believe that the US
> might not be a reliable ally against Hitler. In fact had the UK fallen
> in 1941, the plan was for the US to concede to Hitler, (check out
> Phreedom's maps)  with the Empire falling to the third Reich.  That
> was one of the threats that arose from the marriage of Wallace Simpson
> to the then King Edward VIII. Apart from the constitutional problem
> that she was twice divorced (which would result in the King's
> excommunication at the time) she was also a Nazi Sympathizer. It was
> George VI, and Churchill, and Roosevelt who forsaw the threat that
> Hitler presented, and it was their actions which ensured that the UK
> would not capitulate. A large part of the funding for that came from
> discretionary funds held by the British monarch.
> What really changed the course of WW2, was the attack on Pearl
> Harbour, which forced the US into the war,  by the fact that they were
> declaring war on an AXIS power, (Japan).  The level of influence that
> Hitler had with Tojo was then questionnable.
> Churchill and Roosevelt knew that the americans would become involved.
> British interests in the Pacific, were extensive, and the day after
> Pearl Harbour, Hong Kong was attacked, and failed. What they had
> agreed was that the threat in the  Pacific was far less, and
> particularly if  Hitler were to be neutralized first.
> On Nov 24, 3:20 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > garr caused WNC to be banned. but ! i think when he went to owner of
> > the board she also banned fish boys ass  for his actions . he has not
> > posted anything in almost a week . if fish boy is gone or WNCS is
> > reinstated then i will post here. i posted this article as a test to
> > see if the scaly one was gone
>
> > On Nov 23, 5:43 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I thought the mini moron called for a boycott of this board (as if we 
> > > would
> > > all jump off a cliff if he lead the way LOL).  What gives?
>
> > > CW
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Zebnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 04:40
> > > Subject: Re: lest we forget ! Prescott Bush plotted to overthrow FDR and
>
> > > implement
>
> > > The funniest thing about your paranoid posts, mikey, is that you
> > > actually believe them. I can just see you sitting there with your tin
> > > foil helmet on, drooling and giggling as you type this tripe onto the
> > > forum. LOL!
>
> > > On Nov 23, 1:43 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > which never happened sunshine but hey nice try !
>
> > > > On Nov 23, 1:38 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > here's news murky. how about kerry meeting with the n vietnamese
> > > > > while still a member of the military, while the war was still going
> > > > > on.
>
> > > > > On Nov 23, 1:34 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > it is only non news for those who would hide the truth !
>
> > > > > > On Nov 23, 12:25 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Kinda hard to forget when you fling this nonnews every other day 
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > so.
>
> > > > > > > PS. Obama won ya know, how about something a little more timely?
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 23, 5:13 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > lest we forget ! Prescott Bush plotted to overthrow FDR and
> > > > > > > > implement
> > > > > > > > fascismhttp://republican.meetup.com/boards/thread/3317707
> > > > > > > > The current president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, along with
> > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > prominent industrialists attempted a bloody coup in the 1930's 
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > transform America into a fascist state like Germany and Italy at
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > time. They approached Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > proposition of leading a half-million man army of veterans to
> > > > > > > > defeat
> > > > > > > > FDR's government in 1933 because his policies were perceived as
> > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > progressive. It has already been confirmed that Prescott Bush 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > elitist associates engaged in financial transactions with Nazi
> > > > > > > > Germany
> > > > > > > > at a time when it was illegal. They conducted business with the
> > > > > > > > German
> > > > > > > > companies that fueled Hitler's rise to power and the Nazi war
> > > > > > > > machine.
> > > > > > > > Bush himself was linked to at least one Nazi business,
> > > > > > > > Consolidated
> > > > > > > > Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), that utilized slave labor from
> > > > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > concentration camps. It has been theorized that the Bush family
> > > > > > > > fortune was amassed from those Nazi business dealings in the 
> > > > > > > > '30s
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > '40s. With this information in mind, you can see where George W
> > > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > > his inspiration from. We can only hope and pray that America
> > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > face the same fate as 1930s Germany. However, in my opinion, we
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > well on our way to repeating history.
>
> > > > > > > > BBC short article on the coup:http://www.bbc.co.uk/...
>
> > > > > > > > Quote:
> > > > > > > > The Whitehouse Coup Monday 23 July 2007
>
> > > > > > > > Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 
> > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > group of right-wing American businessmen
>
> > > > > > > > The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt 
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were
> > > > > > > > alleged
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of
> > > > > > > > Heinz,
> > > > > > > > Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush?s Grandfather,
> > > > > > > > Prescott)
> > > > > > > > believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > Mussolini to beat the great depression.
>
> > > > > > > > Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this
> > > > > > > > biggest
> > > > > > > > ever peacetime threat to American democracy.
>
> > > > > > > > Detailed article on the entire 
> > > > > > > > situation:http://prisonplanet.c...
>
> > > > > > > > Quote:
> > > > > > > > BBC: Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America
> > > > > > > > New investigation sheds light on clique of powerbrokers, 
> > > > > > > > including
> > > > > > > > Prescott Bush, who sought to overthrow U.S. government and
> > > > > > > > implement
> > > > > > > > Hitlerian policies
> > > > > > > > Paul Joseph Watson
> > > > > > > > Prison Planet
> > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 24, 2007
>
> > > > > > > > A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major subject
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > has received little historical attention, the conspiracy on 
> > > > > > > > behalf
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > a group of influential powerbrokers, led by Prescott Bush, to
> > > > > > > > overthrow FDR and implement a fascist dictatorship in the U.S.
> > > > > > > > based
> > > > > > > > around the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler.
>
> > > > > > > > In 1933, Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler was approached 
> > > > > > > > by a
> > > > > > > > wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers,
> > > > > > > > including
> > > > > > > > Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help
> > > > > > > > stage
> > > > > > > > a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
>
> > > > > > > > According to the BBC, the plotters intended to impose a fascist
> > > > > > > > takeover and "Adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > great depression."
>
> > > > > > > > The conspirators were operating under the umbrella of a front
> > > > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > called the American Liberty League, which included many families
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > are still household names today, including Heinz, Colgate, Birds
> > > > > > > > Eye
> > > > > > > > and General Motors.
>
> > > > > > > > Butler played along with the clique to determine who was 
> > > > > > > > involved
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > later blew the whistle and identified the ringleaders in 
> > > > > > > > testimony
> > > > > > > > given to the House Committee on un-American Activities.
>
> > > > > > > > However, the Committee refused to even question any of the
> > > > > > > > individuals
> > > > > > > > named by Butler and his testimony was omitted from the record,
> > > > > > > > leading
> > > > > > > > to charges that they were involved in covering the matter up, 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > majority of the media blackballed the story.
>
> > > > > > > > General Smedley Butler, author of the famous quote "war is a
> > > > > > > > racket",
> > > > > > > > exposed the fascist plotters but was subsequently demonized and
> > > > > > > > shunned by the government and the media.
>
> > > > > > > > In 1936, William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany, wrote a
> > > > > > > > letter
> > > > > > > > to President Roosevelt in which he stated,
>
> > > > > > > > "A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist
> > > > > > > > state
> > > > > > > > to supplant our democratic government and is working closely 
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of
> > > > > > > > opportunity
> > > > > > > > in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American
> > > > > > > > ruling
> > > > > > > > families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the largest
>
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