Unlike the LW in 2000, and 2004 the Right already has...    You see
unlike many on the LW we moderates and Conservative ACCEPT the vote as
counted...   It was the LW who REFUSED to accept Bush in 2000...

Heck, even PBR "discovered" that American "nationalism" is not based
solely on ethnic identity...   Funny how they pretend this was not the
for the past 200 years...

On Nov 25, 5:45 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jgg,
>
> He COULD have done a lot of things. He didn't, and still won, now just
> get over it lad.
>
> On Nov 25, 11:45 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well he could have made public his valid (I assume it is valid) birth
> > certificate months ago via the MSM before the entire "conspiracy
> > thinking" got established by asking the State of Hawaii to MAKE PUBLIC
> > his birth certificate ...  How???  While in Hawaii go to the
> > Department with Press in tow and hand the Press the document as he is
> > given it...  He did not...  Typical Obama...  He has a tendency NOT to
> > be open as with Rev. Wright, the CAC, when it might be
> > embarrassing...   So now the lingering issue remains...  Personally I
> > considered this and dropped the issue long ago...
>
> >http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-bi...
>
> >http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/11/obamas-birth--1.html
>
> > On Nov 25, 12:22 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > jgg,
>
> > > The question I asked was simple enough. What do you people expect? Is
> > > President-Elect Obama expected to mail out 300 million certified
> > > copies of his birth certificate?
>
> > > On Nov 25, 11:13 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > The Constitution requires certain things...  Now conspiracy theories
> > > > are born from lack of responses to questions like this.
>
> > > > On Nov 25, 10:32 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > mark,
>
> > > > > What FEC rule/regulation reqires a candidate for POTUS to post a
> > > > > certified copy of his birth certificate online or any other public
> > > > > place for public inspection?
>
> > > > > On Nov 25, 5:22 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress
> > > > > > are resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they 
> > > > > > believe
> > > > > > that Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.
>
> > > > > > Not so.
>
> > > > > > What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that
> > > > > > resembles a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if
> > > > > > authentic, does not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a
> > > > > > child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes
> > > > > > place outside a hospital.
>
> > > > > > It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s 
> > > > > > Selectric
> > > > > > typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask
> > > > > > you a few questions:
>
> > > > > >    1. If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within
> > > > > > your means to quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would
> > > > > > you do it?
>
> > > > > >    2. If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend
> > > > > > thousands of dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would
> > > > > > you simply answer the legitimate question of whether you meet the
> > > > > > constitutional requirements for office?
>
> > > > > >    3. If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a
> > > > > > document called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > was a real "birth certificate"?
>
> > > > > > If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in 
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > trick the public, would that be enough evidence for members Congress
> > > > > > to conduct hearings and for a court to issue an order for the 
> > > > > > critical
> > > > > > records, including the original long-form birth certificate (signed 
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > the doctor) to ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for
> > > > > > office were not violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and
> > > > > > defend that Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court
> > > > > > are "guardians" of the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?
>
> > > > > > Ron Polarik, holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in
> > > > > > computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers,
> > > > > > printers and typewriters, and has come forth with proof more
> > > > > > definitive that the word processor that tried to simulate a 1970s
> > > > > > Selectric typewriter.
>
> > > > > > Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his
> > > > > > findings on video atwww.ObamaForgery.comwithhisidentifymaskedand
> > > > > > voice altered to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he
> > > > > > has already received.
>
> > > > > > The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr.
> > > > > > Obama's websitewww.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog)
> > > > > > and factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were 
> > > > > > found
> > > > > > to be altered and forged.
>
> > > > > >    1. The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned
> > > > > > document such as this, there should be a lot of green pixels from 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > background showing up between the letters that appear on the
> > > > > > certification. But in this case, instead of green pixels, there are
> > > > > > white and grey pixels between the letters, which result when you
> > > > > > replace existing text with other text.
>
> > > > > >    2. There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds –
> > > > > > necessary to fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the
> > > > > > document itself shows only one fold. This is another indication of
> > > > > > document alteration.
>
> > > > > >    3. There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution 
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > the rest of the document, which is another indication that it has 
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > altered.
>
> > > > > >    4. The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security
> > > > > > measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the
> > > > > > Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. That is fine
> > > > > > except for the problem that …
>
> > > > > >    5. The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed
> > > > > > by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on
> > > > > > the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
>
> > > > > > Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you
> > > > > > use only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the
> > > > > > document was manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live
> > > > > > Birth," make sure you "borrow" only from documents used in the same
> > > > > > year!
>
> > > > > >http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81943-Hidequotedtext
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