The European standpoint was that if the American auto industry could
get organized then the bell would ring for the European car makers.
They quoted that the unions were more disciplined and the costs were
lower than anything in Europe. GM managed to prevent American cars
from selling in Europe. Ford also stopped the Europeans from getting
to buy American products. Crysler due to Mercedes sold cars in Europe.
Talked to an American about US cars and they tell you that they are
junk. These are the same people who have never seen a Porsche running
behind a Corvette on the German autobahn. In Sweden American cars last
10 to 20 years, The the shitty and corrupt unions is a poor way to
describe the problems. BMW, Mercedes and Porsche, VW too are all
unionized and are still in the position to sell cars in the US. German
workers are able to buy German cars. There has got to be a new way of
thinking in the American mind. All those who felt good with McCain and
Palin will one day wake up and see the US on it´s back. You sit in
Europe and see on CNN that the 3 major auto makers come to Washington
without a marketing plan, and get dumped upon because of their planes,
and that is being done by someone who got voted into offfice because
he believes in Jesus and all problems are solved in the bible. If
America stays at the niveau of someone like Palin then you can turn
off the lights. The story with the rowing teams, cute but will not buy
a pound of bread.
On Dec 5, 9:57 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fault that the 3 are failing lies with both the shitty and corrupt
> unions and the shitty and corrupt managment. Let them all go to chapter 11.
> the govt has no business ever bailing out any company/individual/ or another
> country. with no exceptions.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Travis,
>
> > And yet somehow most conservatives will come to the conclusion that
> > Ford's performance is the fault of the union. Go fugure.
>
> > On Dec 4, 3:50 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: Travis
> > > Subject: IF THIS WASN'T SO TRUE IT MIGHT BE FUNNY
> > > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008,
>
> > > A Modern Parable
>
> > > A Japanese company (*Toyota**) and an American company (Ford Motor)
> > decided
> > > to have a canoe race on the **Missouri River**. Both teams practiced long
> > > and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
>
> > > On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
>
> > > The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the
> > > reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior
> > > management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.
>
> > > Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person
> > steering,
> > > while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.
>
> > > Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a
> > consulting
> > > company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.
>
> > > They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat,
> > while
> > > not enough people were rowing.
>
> > > Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent
> > another
> > > loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally
> > > reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents
> > and 1
> > > assistant superintendent steering manager.
>
> > > They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1
> > person
> > > rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the
> > 'Rowing
> > > Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the
> > > rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other
> > > equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.
>
> > > The next year the Japanese won by two miles.
>
> > > Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor
> > performance,
> > > halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all
> > > capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed
> > to
> > > the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was
> > > out-sourced to **India**.
>
> > > Sadly, The End.
>
> > > Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty
> > years
> > > moving all its factories out of the **US**, claiming they can't make
> > money
> > > paying American wages.
>
> > > **TOYOTA** has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen
> > plants
> > > inside the **US**. The last quarter's results: **
> > > **
> > > **TOYOTA** makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in
> > > losses.
>
> > > Ford folks are still scratching their heads.*
>
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> > > *~@):~{>
>
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