and who will pay for all this? oh that's right, we will when he raises our taxes. and once again, a little economics for you two fools. you never ever raise taxes during a recession, never. it only makes things worse. and again, just as fdr did which caused the great depression. do try paying attention to history, you might actually learn something, fools.
On Dec 7, 9:42 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > facts and mark are complete strangers ! > > On Dec 7, 9:40 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > mark, > > > WHAT is the man THINKING!?!?! > > > Building and moderizing American infrastructure instead of Bagdad's or > > Kabul's! > > > Creating new jobs that are not in China? > > > Spending perfectly good money that COULD be used to kill people all > > over the world instead? > > Money that could be used to give CEO's and executives in failed > > finanicials with bomus's they so richly deserve and need? > > > Modernizing infrastructure and communications that might help us be > > more competitve in a global economy. > > > Why the man is a monstor! Idiot. > > > On Dec 7, 6:25 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > yep doing exactly what fdr did that plunged the world into the great > > > depression. history does tend to repeat itself. > > > > On Dec 7, 5:28 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Obama Pledges Public Works on a Vast > > > > Scalehttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/us/politics/07radio.html?_r=1&th&em... > > > > — President-elect Barack Obama promised Saturday to create the largest > > > > public works construction program since the inception of the > > > > interstate highway system a half century ago as he seeks to put > > > > together a plan to resuscitate the reeling economy. > > > > > With jobs evaporating and the recession deepening, Mr. Obama began > > > > highlighting elements of the economic recovery program he is trying to > > > > fashion with Congressional leaders in hopes of being able to enact it > > > > shortly after being sworn in on Jan. 20. His address on Saturday > > > > followed the report on Friday indicating that the country lost 533,000 > > > > jobs in November alone, bringing the total number of jobs lost over > > > > the past year to nearly 2 million. > > > > > Mr. Obama’s remarks showcased his ambition to expand the definition of > > > > traditional work programs for the middle class, like infrastructure > > > > projects to repair roads and bridges, to include new-era jobs in > > > > technology and so-called green jobs that reduce energy use and global > > > > warming emissions. “We need action — and action now,” Mr. Obama said > > > > in an address broadcast Saturday morning on radio and YouTube. > > > > > Mr. Obama’s plan, if enacted, would be in part a government-directed > > > > industrial policy, with lawmakers and administration officials picking > > > > winners and losers among private projects and raining large amounts of > > > > taxpayer money on them. > > > > > It would cover a range of programs to expand broadband Internet > > > > access, to make government buildings more energy efficient, to improve > > > > information technology at hospitals and doctors’ offices, and to > > > > upgrade computers in schools. > > > > > “It is unacceptable that the United States ranks 15th in the world in > > > > broadband adoption,” Mr. Obama said. “Here, in the country that > > > > invented the Internet, every child should have the chance to get > > > > online.” > > > > > President Bush and many conservative economists have opposed such > > > > large-scale government intervention in the economy because it supports > > > > enterprises that might not survive in a free market. That is the crux > > > > of the argument against a government bailout of the auto industry. > > > > > But Mr. Obama proposes to charge ahead, asserting that extensive > > > > government support is needed to preserve and create jobs while > > > > building the latticework of a 21st century economy. > > > > > Although Mr. Obama put no price tag on his plan, he said he would > > > > invest record amounts of money in the vast infrastructure program, > > > > which also includes work on schools, sewer systems, mass transit, > > > > electrical grids, dams and other public utilities. The green jobs > > > > would include various categories, including jobs dedicated to creating > > > > alternative fuels, windmills and solar panels; building energy > > > > efficient appliances, or installing fuel-efficient heating or cooling > > > > systems. > > > > > Paul Bledsoe, a former Clinton White House energy adviser, said that > > > > Mr. Obama had now settled whatever debate there was in his transition > > > > team and among Democrats in Congress over how to lift the economy in > > > > the short term and over a longer horizon. > > > > > “It’s now clear that Obama intends to stimulate the economy through > > > > large direct government spending on infrastructure projects as well as > > > > through business and individual tax cuts,” said Mr. Bledsoe, now an > > > > official of the National Commission on Energy Policy, a nonpartisan > > > > research group in Washington. “He is advocating things like > > > > guaranteeing every American a college education, wiring the entire > > > > country for Internet, putting in a smart electric grid. If he can do > > > > it, these will be major systemic advantages for the United States in > > > > the competitive global economy.” > > > > > Although Mr. Obama is weeks away from taking office, Friday’s grim > > > > jobs report heightened pressure on him to assert leadership before his > > > > inauguration. > > > > > Mr. Obama and his team are working with Congressional leaders to > > > > devise a spending package that some lawmakers suggest could total $400 > > > > billion to $700 billion. Some analysts forecast even higher costs. Mr. > > > > Obama has said he would direct his team to come up with a plan to save > > > > or create 2.5 million jobs in the first two years of his > > > > administration. > > > > > A big part of that will be public works spending. “We will create > > > > millions of jobs by making the single largest new investment in our > > > > national infrastructure since the creation of the federal highway > > > > system in the 1950s,” Mr. Obama said. He did not estimate how much he > > > > would devote to that purpose, but when he met with the nation’s > > > > governors last week, they said the states had $136 billion worth of > > > > road, bridge, water and other projects ready to go as soon as money > > > > became available. They estimated that each billion dollars spent would > > > > create up to 40,000 jobs. > > > > > Local and regional transit systems have $8 billion more in projects > > > > that could begin immediately, like buying hybrid buses and expanding > > > > light rail systems, creating thousands of jobs. > > > > > 1 2 Next Page »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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