again murky, I have no need to prove myself to one such as yourself. and as I have said, you having no respect for the military, either was drafted and spent your time in the brig, or this is just another lie that you have said so many times you actually believe it to be true. the military would never accept such a military hating lib such as yourself. not willingly.
On Dec 21, 3:31 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> wrote: > mark you already have provided proof in the things you say and post > that you have never been in the service . > > On Dec 20, 7:00 pm, mark <[email protected]> wrote: >ue. > > I need not prove myself to an anti military, anti American terrorist > > such as yourself, murkey. the only military you have been part of > > were the hitler youth, or perhaps the young communist movement. but > > there is no way they would ever let a terrorist such as yourself in > > our military. never. > > > On Dec 20, 12:18 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > sure you are mark . you betcha wink wink ! > > > > On Dec 20, 12:07 pm, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > as a matter of fact I am a veteran, and damn proud of our military. > > > > unlike murky to says he is a vet, yet does nothing but condemn and > > > > defame the military. the only military murky belongs to is the army > > > > of islam. > > > > > On Dec 20, 11:16 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > so what ! and we had already been in Nam five years in 1963 > > > > > > On Dec 20, 11:13 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well I am. Army 62-65. In Viet Nam in 63. And yes, that was > > > > > > before they > > > > >y. > were shooting at us. I saw no action. > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > no he isn't ! and frankly what he knows about the military > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > fill a thimble . > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 10:00 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Are you a veteran, Mark? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 9:53 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > for someone who claims to be a proud vet murky, you sure are > > > > > > > > > anti > > > > > > > > > military, anti America. I guess this is just one more of your > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > lies, like telling everyone you are a republican. once a > > > > > > > > > lying lib, > > > > > > > > > always a lying lib. it is in the genes. a birth defect. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:31 am, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > MY God are you implying bush and the pentigo wasted our > > > > > > > > > > money ? > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also get about 5 zillion of these games at your > > > > > > > > > > > local video > > > > > > > > > > > games store OR on this very internet. > > > > > > > > > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 7:37 am, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > just among biggots and republicans ! Oh wait they are > > > > > > > > > > > > the same > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > arn't they ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 6:51 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a new video game titled "Killing Muzzies For > > > > > > > > > > > > > fun and > > > > > > > Profit." It > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be an instant hit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kids Learn That Killing Is Fun at the Army's Lethal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Theme > > > > > > > Park > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/113079/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Army's new recruitment tool lets high-tech > > > > > > > > > > > > > > video game > > > > > > > centers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desensitize, condition, train and even enlist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > America's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Army Experience Center, located in the Franklin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mills > > > > > > > Mall just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > north of Philadelphia, bills itself as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "state-of-the-art > > > > > > > > > > > > > > educational > > > > > > > > > > > > > > facility that uses interactive simulations and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > online > > > > > > > learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > programs to educate visitors about the many > > > > > > > > > > > > > > careers, training > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > educational opportunities available in the Army." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. The only thing they're teaching here is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to blow > > > > > > > shit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's state-of-the-art anything, it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state-of-the-art > > > > > > > adolescent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boys' wet dreams. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Too slow! Do it again!" yells the voice in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > earphones as a > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sequence of armed figures in camouflage pop up in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > front of > > > > > > > me. I -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the player -- am attached to the foreshortened > > > > > > > > > > > > > > barrel of an > > > > > > > M-16 -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a little embarrassed by that. It's not my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing, really. > > > > > > > And I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't expecting the game to involve having to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tolerate some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dickhead's personal opinion about my marksmanship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I didn't come here to get yelled at or to play > > > > > > > > > > > > > > games. I > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because I was curious about the Army's latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marketing > > > > > > > strategy. For > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $12 million, this place has been dressed to kill: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15,000 > > > > > > > square feet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (about three basketball courts) done up in brushed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > steel, > > > > > > > glass and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > low-light glam. But what this place is really about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > bling: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strings of networked Xbox 360 pods and individual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gaming > > > > > > > stations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the crown jewels: a UH-60 Black Hawk, an AH-64 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache and a > > > > > > > Humvee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simulators. And it's all entirely free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Potential recruits are afforded a unique > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity to > > > > > > > learn what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means to be the best-led, best-trained and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best-equipped Army > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world by allowing them to virtually experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > aspects of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Army," says Pete Geren, Secretary of the Army. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, give me a break, sir! You mean the "Career > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navigators," > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fancy touch-screen installations where you can see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jobs the Army can train you for? No one went near > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them all > > > > > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these kids can't reach them, anyway. It's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shiny toys > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virtual adrenaline rush that brings them in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Behind a glass wall, there are 40 more terminals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > facing a > > > > > > > wall of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plasma screens: the Tactical Operations Center, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where local > > > > > > > educators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (principals, superintendents, school counselors and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > teachers) > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > given an earful about how misunderstood the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > military is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Accurate information about the military experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is often > > > > > > > drowned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out, or the information that does get through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > projects mixed > > > > > > > messages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or inaccuracies," Lt. Gen. Benjamin C. Freakly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > complained to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Northeast Times. "The Army Experience Center > > > > > > > > > > > > > > provides > > > > > > > hands-on, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virtual-reality experiences and simulations for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > young men and > > > > > > > women, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their parents and others to see, touch and learn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firsthand > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means to be in the Army." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no mixed messages at the AEC: being in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Army is > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting to play with boy toys, 24/7. Freakly's tidy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > version > > > > > > > of "what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it means to be in the Army" fails to mention what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can happen > > > > > > > if your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Humvee hits an IED, or how it might feel to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > splattered > > > > > > > with your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best friend's insides. Or your own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I considered that grim thought, there's a tap on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > shoulder. It's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my turn -- my Black Hawk awaits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our orders are to protect a convoy as it moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through enemy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > territory. The video kicks in with a roar of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rotors; the > > > > > > > chopper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lurches and bucks as it turns to follow the trucks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > ground -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the wind, the vibrations, the report of my M-4 and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > staccato of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incoming rounds make it hard to hear the screamed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alerts > > > > > > > coming over > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intercom: "Enemy on the right!" "Look out, RPGs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > straight > > > > > > > ahead!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bad guys are shooting at me from the alleys, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shadows, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rooftops, but I am wasting them. One after another, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they get > > > > > > > caught > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my crosshairs and -- bam! -- their bodies lift and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprawl in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > haphazard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > death. We're slammed by an IED and momentarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > engulfed in > > > > > > > flame. My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hand is getting numb from the rifle recoil, but my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lizard > > > > > > > brain has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too soon, we emerge from the bedlam > > ... > > read more ยป --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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