sure you are mark . you betcha wink wink ! On Dec 20, 12:07 pm, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > as a matter of fact I am a veteran, and damn proud of our military. > unlike murky to says he is a vet, yet does nothing but condemn and > defame the military. the only military murky belongs to is the army > of islam. > > On Dec 20, 11:16 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > so what ! and we had already been in Nam five years in 1963 > > > On Dec 20, 11:13 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well I am. Army 62-65. In Viet Nam in 63. And yes, that was before they > >y. > were shooting at us. I saw no action. > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > no he isn't ! and frankly what he knows about the military wouldn't > > > > fill a thimble . > > > > > On Dec 20, 10:00 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Are you a veteran, Mark? > > > > > > On Dec 20, 9:53 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > for someone who claims to be a proud vet murky, you sure are anti > > > > > > military, anti America. I guess this is just one more of your many > > > > > > lies, like telling everyone you are a republican. once a lying lib, > > > > > > always a lying lib. it is in the genes. a birth defect. > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:31 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > MY God are you implying bush and the pentigo wasted our money ? > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:29 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You can also get about 5 zillion of these games at your local > > > > > > > > video > > > > > > > > games store OR on this very internet. > > > > > > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................ > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 7:37 am, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > just among biggots and republicans ! Oh wait they are the same > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > arn't they ? > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 6:51 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > We need a new video game titled "Killing Muzzies For fun and > > > > Profit." It > > > > > > > > > > would be an instant hit. > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kids Learn That Killing Is Fun at the Army's Lethal New > > > > > > > > > > > Theme > > > > Park > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/113079/ > > > > > > > > > > > The Army's new recruitment tool lets high-tech video game > > > > centers > > > > > > > > > > > desensitize, condition, train and even enlist America's > > > > > > > > > > > youth. > > > > > > > > > > > The Army Experience Center, located in the Franklin Mills > > > > Mall just > > > > > > > > > > > north of Philadelphia, bills itself as a "state-of-the-art > > > > > > > > > > > educational > > > > > > > > > > > facility that uses interactive simulations and online > > > > learning > > > > > > > > > > > programs to educate visitors about the many careers, > > > > > > > > > > > training > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > educational opportunities available in the Army." > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. The only thing they're teaching here is how to > > > > > > > > > > > blow > > > > shit > > > > > > > > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > > If it's state-of-the-art anything, it's state-of-the-art > > > > adolescent > > > > > > > > > > > boys' wet dreams. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Too slow! Do it again!" yells the voice in my earphones > > > > > > > > > > > as a > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > sequence of armed figures in camouflage pop up in front of > > > > me. I -- > > > > > > > > > > > the player -- am attached to the foreshortened barrel of > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > M-16 -- > > > > > > > > > > > and a little embarrassed by that. It's not my thing, > > > > > > > > > > > really. > > > > And I > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't expecting the game to involve having to tolerate > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > dickhead's personal opinion about my marksmanship. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I didn't come here to get yelled at or to play games. > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > > because I was curious about the Army's latest marketing > > > > strategy. For > > > > > > > > > > > $12 million, this place has been dressed to kill: 15,000 > > > > square feet > > > > > > > > > > > (about three basketball courts) done up in brushed steel, > > > > glass and > > > > > > > > > > > low-light glam. But what this place is really about is the > > > > bling: > > > > > > > > > > > strings of networked Xbox 360 pods and individual gaming > > > > stations. > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > the crown jewels: a UH-60 Black Hawk, an AH-64 Apache and > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > Humvee. > > > > > > > > > > > Simulators. And it's all entirely free. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Potential recruits are afforded a unique opportunity to > > > > learn what > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > means to be the best-led, best-trained and best-equipped > > > > > > > > > > > Army > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > world by allowing them to virtually experience multiple > > > > aspects of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Army," says Pete Geren, Secretary of the Army. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, give me a break, sir! You mean the "Career > > > > > > > > > > > Navigators," > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > fancy touch-screen installations where you can see all the > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > jobs the Army can train you for? No one went near them all > > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > Most > > > > > > > > > > > of these kids can't reach them, anyway. It's the shiny > > > > > > > > > > > toys > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > virtual adrenaline rush that brings them in. > > > > > > > > > > > > Behind a glass wall, there are 40 more terminals facing a > > > > wall of > > > > > > > > > > > plasma screens: the Tactical Operations Center, where > > > > > > > > > > > local > > > > educators > > > > > > > > > > > (principals, superintendents, school counselors and > > > > > > > > > > > teachers) > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > given an earful about how misunderstood the military is. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Accurate information about the military experience is > > > > > > > > > > > often > > > > drowned > > > > > > > > > > > out, or the information that does get through projects > > > > > > > > > > > mixed > > > > messages > > > > > > > > > > > or inaccuracies," Lt. Gen. Benjamin C. Freakly recently > > > > complained to > > > > > > > > > > > the Northeast Times. "The Army Experience Center provides > > > > hands-on, > > > > > > > > > > > virtual-reality experiences and simulations for young men > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > women, > > > > > > > > > > > their parents and others to see, touch and learn firsthand > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > means to be in the Army." > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no mixed messages at the AEC: being in the Army > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > getting to play with boy toys, 24/7. Freakly's tidy > > > > > > > > > > > version > > > > of "what > > > > > > > > > > > it means to be in the Army" fails to mention what can > > > > > > > > > > > happen > > > > if your > > > > > > > > > > > Humvee hits an IED, or how it might feel to be splattered > > > > with your > > > > > > > > > > > best friend's insides. Or your own. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I considered that grim thought, there's a tap on my > > > > shoulder. It's > > > > > > > > > > > my turn -- my Black Hawk awaits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our orders are to protect a convoy as it moves through > > > > > > > > > > > enemy > > > > > > > > > > > territory. The video kicks in with a roar of rotors; the > > > > chopper > > > > > > > > > > > lurches and bucks as it turns to follow the trucks on the > > > > ground -- > > > > > > > > > > > the wind, the vibrations, the report of my M-4 and the > > > > staccato of > > > > > > > > > > > incoming rounds make it hard to hear the screamed alerts > > > > coming over > > > > > > > > > > > the intercom: "Enemy on the right!" "Look out, RPGs > > > > > > > > > > > straight > > > > ahead!" > > > > > > > > > > > > Bad guys are shooting at me from the alleys, the shadows, > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > rooftops, but I am wasting them. One after another, they > > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > caught > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my crosshairs and -- bam! -- their bodies lift and sprawl > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > haphazard > > > > > > > > > > > death. We're slammed by an IED and momentarily engulfed in > > > > flame. My > > > > > > > > > > > hand is getting numb from the rifle recoil, but my lizard > > > > brain has > > > > > > > > > > > taken over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Too soon, we emerge from the bedlam and an inspirationally > > > > oversized > > > > > > > > > > > American flag indicates that we have successfully achieved > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > destination -- a field hospital where rows of medics > > > > > > > > > > > attend > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > ghastly > > > > > > > > > > > luminous, very slightly breathing shapes, the bloodless > > > > bodies of the > > > > > > > > > > > cyber-wounded. > > > > > > > > > > > > 123Next page > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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