WHEN YOU GO IN THE HOSPITAL NEEDING A BLOOD TRANSFUSION AND THE
HOSPITAL TELLS YOU SORRY WE DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT . WHAT WILL YOU SAY
SUNSHINE ?

On Dec 21, 8:12 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> oh so we now make distinctions between who can and cannot follow their
> conscience.  sounds like fascism to me.  we the state will determine
> how you think, feel, and act.  you will conform or we will make you
> conform.  we have ways to make you conform.
>
> On Dec 21, 7:47 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> > in this profession yes it is !
>
> > On Dec 21, 6:45 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > so it is a bad thing to allow people to follow their conscience while
> > > making choices is that right murky?
>
> > > On Dec 21, 6:09 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > " Health care workers, hospitals and even entire insurance companies
> > > > can decline to perform, refer or pay for any health care practice that
> > > > violates a "religious belief or moral conviction
> > > > "
> > > > Bush's Last-Minute "Conscience" Rules Cause Furor
> > > >  http://www.truthout.org/122008E
> > > > Health care workers, hospitals and even entire insurance companies
> > > > could decline to perform, refer or pay for abortion or any other
> > > > health care practice that violates a "religious belief or moral
> > > > conviction" under new rules issued by the outgoing Bush
> > > > administration.
>
> > > >     "This rule protects the right of medical providers to care for
> > > > their patients in accord with their conscience," said Health and
> > > > Human
> > > > Services Secretary Michael Leavitt.
>
> > > >     But opponents of the rule, now set to take effect Jan. 19, say it
> > > > could threaten patients' health. "This is a very wide, broadly
> > > > written
> > > > regulation that upsets what has been a carefully established balance
> > > > between respecting the religious views of providers, while also
> > > > making
> > > > sure that we're guaranteeing patients access to health care," said
> > > > Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of
> > > > America.
>
> > > >     For example, Richards said, many states currently have laws
> > > > requiring that rape victims treated in hospital emergency rooms be
> > > > offered the option of taking emergency contraceptive pills to prevent
> > > > pregnancy. But she said that because providers who don't believe in
> > > > emergency contraception could now simply opt not to tell women about
> > > > that option, "under this rule, we believe that in fact now women who
> > > > are the victim of sexual assault either would not be guaranteed
> > > > either
> > > > information or health care access to emergency contraception."
>
> > > >     That slap at state laws spurred opposition from more than a dozen
> > > > state attorneys general when the regulations were first proposed.
> > > > Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal says he'll fight to
> > > > see the new rule rescinded.
>
> > > >     "This rule is an appalling insult and abuse - a midnight power
> > > > grab to deny access to health care services and information,
> > > > including
> > > > even to victims of rape," Blumenthal said.
>
> > > >     But Leavitt said he felt compelled to issue the new rules after
> > > > what he termed an unsatisfactory exchange last year with the
> > > > organizations that represent the nation's obstetricians and
> > > > gynecologists over a new set of ethics guidelines.
>
> > > >     "It came about primarily because some of the professional
> > > > association were trying to define as competence a willingness to
> > > > perform abortion. And I think that's wrong," Leavitt said in
> > > > September. "A person can be perfectly competent and feel it's not
> > > > morally correct to perform an abortion. And they ought to have the
> > > > capacity to be protected in that right."
>
> > > >     That ethics policy, however, from the American College of
> > > > Obstetricians and Gynecologists, had less to do with whether doctors
> > > > should be willing to perform abortions or other potentially
> > > > controversial services, and more to do with what they should do if
> > > > they were unwilling to perform them. In those cases, according to the
> > > > policy, doctors should tell patients upfront and refer them to
> > > > someone
> > > > who is willing to provide the services.
>
> > > >     Under the new regulations, however, such referrals will not be
> > > > required. That pleases groups like the Family Research Council. "What
> > > > these conscience regulations do is let the individual decide what
> > > > their conscience is, and not the federal government, be it Barack
> > > > Obama or George Bush," said Tom McClusky, the group's vice president
> > > > of government affairs.
>
> > > >     But Barack Obama made it clear during the presidential campaign
> > > > that he disapproved of the rules. The president-elect said an early
> > > > version of the regulations "raises troubling issues about access to
> > > > basic health care for women, particularly access to contraceptives."
>
> > > >     While the incoming president can't simply wipe out the rules with
> > > > the stroke of a pen, there is a relatively abbreviated process for
> > > > taking them off the books. It's called the Congressional Review Act.
> > > > And because the Bush administration issued the regulation late in the
> > > > current president's term, the new Congress will have 75 legislative
> > > > days to pass a "motion of disapproval." All it takes is a simple
> > > > majority of votes by the House and Senate, and the motion is not
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