don't get me wrong, Mark-a-tronic, I've had a lifetime-full of far- left insanity as well. I was raised in an NRA, Democrat household (try finding allies there!), and my values are much the same as my father's.
On Dec 21, 11:00 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > it all boils down to the systematic slaughter of the unborn. a > healthcare provider who does not believe in abortions should not be > forced by the government to provide them, period. under the society > libs want, you will have no choice. if the almighty government says > you will do it, you will do it. can you say sieg heil. nazis on the > march. fascism comes to America brought to you by your unfriendly > neighborhood lib. > > On Dec 21, 10:14 am, Running <[email protected]> wrote: > > > more "bending over backwards for Nerditarians" > > > Gee, let's apply this more broadly. > > Maybe a cop could refuse to collar someone, because he believes that > > meth is "no big deal". > > Maybe a professor at a private university could refuse extra help to a > > Catholic student, because he believes that person to be "fraught with > > sin" or "bowing to a Roman dictator." > > > On Dec 21, 6:09 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > " Health care workers, hospitals and even entire insurance companies > > > can decline to perform, refer or pay for any health care practice that > > > violates a "religious belief or moral conviction > > > " > > > Bush's Last-Minute "Conscience" Rules Cause Furor > > > http://www.truthout.org/122008E > > > Health care workers, hospitals and even entire insurance companies > > > could decline to perform, refer or pay for abortion or any other > > > health care practice that violates a "religious belief or moral > > > conviction" under new rules issued by the outgoing Bush > > > administration. > > > > "This rule protects the right of medical providers to care for > > > their patients in accord with their conscience," said Health and > > > Human > > > Services Secretary Michael Leavitt. > > > > But opponents of the rule, now set to take effect Jan. 19, say it > > > could threaten patients' health. "This is a very wide, broadly > > > written > > > regulation that upsets what has been a carefully established balance > > > between respecting the religious views of providers, while also > > > making > > > sure that we're guaranteeing patients access to health care," said > > > Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of > > > America. > > > > For example, Richards said, many states currently have laws > > > requiring that rape victims treated in hospital emergency rooms be > > > offered the option of taking emergency contraceptive pills to prevent > > > pregnancy. But she said that because providers who don't believe in > > > emergency contraception could now simply opt not to tell women about > > > that option, "under this rule, we believe that in fact now women who > > > are the victim of sexual assault either would not be guaranteed > > > either > > > information or health care access to emergency contraception." > > > > That slap at state laws spurred opposition from more than a dozen > > > state attorneys general when the regulations were first proposed. > > > Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal says he'll fight to > > > see the new rule rescinded. > > > > "This rule is an appalling insult and abuse - a midnight power > > > grab to deny access to health care services and information, > > > including > > > even to victims of rape," Blumenthal said. > > > > But Leavitt said he felt compelled to issue the new rules after > > > what he termed an unsatisfactory exchange last year with the > > > organizations that represent the nation's obstetricians and > > > gynecologists over a new set of ethics guidelines. > > > > "It came about primarily because some of the professional > > > association were trying to define as competence a willingness to > > > perform abortion. And I think that's wrong," Leavitt said in > > > September. "A person can be perfectly competent and feel it's not > > > morally correct to perform an abortion. And they ought to have the > > > capacity to be protected in that right." > > > > That ethics policy, however, from the American College of > > > Obstetricians and Gynecologists, had less to do with whether doctors > > > should be willing to perform abortions or other potentially > > > controversial services, and more to do with what they should do if > > > they were unwilling to perform them. In those cases, according to the > > > policy, doctors should tell patients upfront and refer them to > > > someone > > > who is willing to provide the services. > > > > Under the new regulations, however, such referrals will not be > > > required. That pleases groups like the Family Research Council. "What > > > these conscience regulations do is let the individual decide what > > > their conscience is, and not the federal government, be it Barack > > > Obama or George Bush," said Tom McClusky, the group's vice president > > > of government affairs. > > > > But Barack Obama made it clear during the presidential campaign > > > that he disapproved of the rules. The president-elect said an early > > > version of the regulations "raises troubling issues about access to > > > basic health care for women, particularly access to contraceptives." > > > > While the incoming president can't simply wipe out the rules with > > > the stroke of a pen, there is a relatively abbreviated process for > > > taking them off the books. It's called the Congressional Review Act. > > > And because the Bush administration issued the regulation late in the > > > current president's term, the new Congress will have 75 legislative > > > days to pass a "motion of disapproval." 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