Repugnant perhaps, but let's look at it again. He said, in what
appears to me to be an offhand manner, that he is looking at his Medal
of Honor. No where did he claim that he earned it. Anyone can come
into possession of one. I think the comment is too offhand and too
vague to cause a great deal of uproar. I can understand why veterans
would find the statement offensive, but remember what he said vs. what
might be interpreted.
Perhaps we should just wait for lower-case mark to explain his comment
himself.

On Dec 22, 9:54�am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> WNCS, I am Mark, capitalized and TAO. He is mark and was given
> that/those opportunity(ies), retract/apologize. His IP address was
> sent. It is positive ID.
>
> It is morally repugnant to make the statement he made... joking or not
> it is the same as yelling fire in the theater and apologizing later.
> (although I'm sure the vets on this board and I would have settled for
> that.) He chose his own path.
>
> On 12/22/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sorry, I got confused reading the thread for the first time because
> > there are two people posting as "mark" (one capitalized and one not),
> > and one of those people also using another user name. It's very
> > confusing, and at first read I misunderstood who was accusing whom of
> > what, sorry!
> > But I still say on a "somewhat" anonymous message board, we can never
> > be sure who the other person really is. If you checked a list of
> > recipients, how could you know he is not one of them? Do you know his
> > real name? (If you do, please do not post it.)
> > Perhaps he needs to be given the chance to speak up and defend
> > himself, and either convince us he's telling the truth, or explain
> > that he was being facetious and apologize.
>
> > On Dec 22, 9:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > yep, i checked the list to be sure (there are under 200 live
> > > recipients) plus from his posts in the past I doubt he has even served
> > > in the military,, but not sure of that.
>
> > > On 12/22/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > How can you be 100% certain he does not have a Medal of Honor?
>
> > > > On Dec 22, 9:21 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > yes, but there are certain forms of free speech that are prohibited
>
> > > > > Yelling Fire in a theater, Talking/joking about bombs in an airport
> > > > > and claiming to be a medal of honor recipient. I abide by all three.
>
> > > > > You don"t ??
>
> > > > > and no it was not pushing the "nanny" button. he was told it was
> > > > > illegal/immoral, the penalty and fine were listed and an opportunity
> > > > > to apologize given. He was given the option to do right, he chose to
> > > > > ignore it and continue the charade.
>
> > > > > A better question is do(es) you/he believe in personal responsibility.
>
> > > > > On 12/22/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > So you support free speech for yourself but not for others? You are 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > bad as former member Rasta, who pushed the nanny button all the 
> > > > > > time.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 22, 8:55 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > absolutely not, it is sent and recieved. i gave him (as a 
> > > > > > > responsible
> > > > > > > adult) the opportunity to say he didn't mean it, to retract and
> > > > > > > apologize, he chose to be an idiot. I chose to do right by the 
> > > > > > > blood
> > > > > > > in a lot of fields.
>
> > > > > > > On 12/22/08, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > yes i know it is ! man i hate to do it . but in all fairness i 
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > think he was trying to show disrespect for the C.M.H. he was 
> > > > > > > > trying to
> > > > > > > > show disrespect for me ! I hate to see him get his ass in a 
> > > > > > > > sling just
> > > > > > > > for being stupid and stubborn . is it to late for you to 
> > > > > > > > reconsider
> > > > > > > > and with draw your complaint ?
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 8:34 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > he's about to. It is taken very seriously. To me there are 
> > > > > > > > > two things
> > > > > > > > > that are seriously out of bounds..... violations of my 8 year 
> > > > > > > > > old
> > > > > > > > > daughter and the medal of honor. Fortunately the government 
> > > > > > > > > and every
> > > > > > > > > man or woman that has ever been in uniform feels tha same way.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 12/22/08, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > mark has never heard of the theft of honor law .
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 6:53 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > There is a rather stiff penalty for making that claim. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Offenders can
> > > > > > > > > > > spend up to a year in jail or be fined up to $100,000 for 
> > > > > > > > > > > falsely
> > > > > > > > > > > claiming or stating they have recieved the Nations 
> > > > > > > > > > > Highest Award, The
> > > > > > > > > > > Medal of Honor.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Repeat that again and I will personally guarantee your 
> > > > > > > > > > > prosecution.
> > > > > > > > > > > There are some things that are not to be joked about. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Every man or
> > > > > > > > > > > woman who has served their country would back me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > NO ROOM FOR JOKES.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I DEMAND A SINCERE RETRACTION AND APOLOGY TO ALL THE VETS 
> > > > > > > > > > > ON THIS
> > > > > > > > > > > BOARD.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 10:03 am, mark <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > sure ya are murky. sure ya are. and I am looking at my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Medal of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Honor.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 7:42 am, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mark you guys really crack me up ! just so you know i 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > am sitting here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in my home office looking at the not one but two 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > service awards from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Congress of the United States of America hanging 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on my wall next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to my retirement certificate from the U S Navy . for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > " Honorable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > service in The United States Navy "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and for " outstanding service and loyalty to the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > United States of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > America "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 7:01 am, mark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > again murky, I have no need to prove myself to one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and as I have said, you having no respect for the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > military, either was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > drafted and spent your time in the brig, or this is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just another lie
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have said so many times you actually 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe it to be true.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the military would never accept such a military 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hating lib such as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself. not willingly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 3:31 am, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark you already have provided proof in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things you say and post
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you have never been in the service .
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 7:00 pm, mark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ue.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need not prove myself to an anti military, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anti American terrorist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as yourself, murkey. the only military you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been part of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were the hitler youth, or perhaps the young 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > communist movement. but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no way they would ever let a terrorist 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as yourself in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our military. never.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 12:18 pm, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sure you are mark . you betcha wink wink !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 12:07 pm, mark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a matter of fact I am a veteran, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > damn proud of our military.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlike murky to says he is a vet, yet does 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing but condemn and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defame the military. the only military 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > murky belongs to is the army
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of islam.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 11:16 am, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what ! and we had already been in Nam 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > five years in 1963
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 11:13 am, Travis 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I am. Army 62-65. In Viet Nam in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 63. And yes, that was before they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >y. > were shooting at us. I saw no action.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:08 AM, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Florida Cracker 532 <
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no he isn't ! and frankly what he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knows about the military wouldn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fill a thimble .
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 10:00 am, wncs 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you a veteran, Mark?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 9:53 am, mark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for someone who claims to be a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proud vet murky, you sure are anti
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > military, anti America. I guess 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is just one more of your many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lies, like telling everyone you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are a republican. once a lying 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lib,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always a lying lib. it is in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > genes. a birth defect.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:31 am, Florida 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MY God are you implying bush 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the pentigo wasted our 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 8:29 am, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also get about 5 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zillion of these games at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your local video
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > games store OR on this very 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................
>
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