Some Urban Myth, You have NOTHING that trumps these statements by the men who WROTE the resolution 1441.
The ambassador for the United States, John Negroponte, said: " [T]his resolution contains no "hidden triggers" and no "automaticity" with respect to the use of force. If there is a further Iraqi breach, reported to the Council by UNMOVIC, the IAEA or a Member State, the matter will return to the Council for discussions as required in paragraph 12. The ambassador for the United Kingdom, the co-sponsor of the resolution, said: " We heard loud and clear during the negotiations the concerns about "automaticity" and "hidden triggers" -- the concern that on a decision so crucial we should not rush into military action; that on a decision so crucial any Iraqi violations should be discussed by the Council. Let me be equally clear in response... There is no "automaticity" in this resolution. If there is a further Iraqi breach of its disarmament obligations, the matter will return to the Council for discussion as required in paragraph 12. We would expect the Security Council then to meet its responsibilities.[3] The message was further confirmed by the ambassador for Syria: " Syria voted in favour of the resolution, having received reassurances from its sponsors, the United States of America and the United Kingdom, and from France and Russia through high-level contacts, that it would not be used as a pretext for striking against Iraq and does not constitute a basis for any automatic strikes against Iraq. The resolution should not be interpreted, through certain paragraphs, as authorizing any State to use force. It reaffirms the central role of the Security Council in addressing all phases of the Iraqi issue.[4] And yet the US invaded unilaterally and illegally. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > First, the UNSC was NOT ignored... There was authorization given by > prior Chapter VII Resolutions on Iraq, and the Cease Fire > Agreement... The claim that the UN was ignored is ANOTHER URBAN > myth... > > On Dec 22, 5:22 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> Since the UNSC was ignored in order to invade don't you find it >> hypocritical to use their standards as any proof. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:21 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Mark Russia sent its soldiers into Georgian territory and unilaterally >> > declared part of Georgia Independent... I note the unwillingness on >> > your part to DISCUSS ideas... For example >> >> > If one insisted on facts, talking to most of those who opposed Bush in >> > Iraq would be impossible... Why.. They insist not WMD was found in >> > Iraq post 2003... WMD was found in Iraq, as defined by the >> > UNSC... >> >> > But I understand this tactic is meant to NOT DISCUSS ideas while >> > pretending to yourself you are open-minded... >> >> > On Dec 22, 1:16 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Russia did NOT invade Georgia. It is a lie. An opposing view point >> >> that begins with an incontrovertable lie is worthless. >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Perhaps your bias is why your opinions suck --- you refuse to read >> >> > opposing view points... >> >> >> > On Dec 20, 3:06 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Won't even read it as the title contains a lie. >> >> >> >> One can not invade a nation one has been in legally by open and >> >> >> admitted consent of that nation. >> >> >> >> On Dec 20, 12:44 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >http://cominganarchy.com/2008/12/20/pinned-americas-taiwan-policy-rec... >> >> >> >> > >>> Accordingly, the ultimate goal is preventing hostilities—for as >> >> >> > >>> long as possible. That means no independence declaration and no >> >> >> > >>> military invasion. The best way to maintain this is to speak >> >> >> > >>> Victorian! In other words the US must state that it will honor >> >> >> > >>> its defense pledge to Taiwan in the event this small democratic >> >> >> > >>> nation is attacked by an authoritarian communist power. And it >> >> >> > >>> must supply Taiwan with military hardware accordingly. But it >> >> >> > >>> cannot overstate its support and push Taiwan to "pull a >> >> >> > >>> Georgia." The Russian invasion of Georgia may end up having an >> >> >> > >>> impact on the Far East. We must assume that Taiwan has watched >> >> >> > >>> the lukewarm American response to Russia's invasion with extreme >> >> >> > >>> concern, because it shows that America really isn't willing to >> >> >> > >>> protect reckless leaders that may be considered allies. >> >> >> > >>> Hopefully it acts to restrain Taiwan's urges for declaring >> >> >> > >>> independence, and does not inspire China about the benefits that >> >> >> > >>> could be reaped from an invasion.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark M. Kahle >> >> Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me >> >> -- >> Mark M. Kahle >> Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me > > > -- Mark M. Kahle Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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