Mike,

That's fine..  we rarely see eye to eye on much anyway. However, I
will note the following;

#1 is by a website, not by me, and it's one of the few organizations
that actually try to count the dead, not just make estimates as most
others have done.

#3 is a fact. You may not care for the new brackets and rates, but all
tax rates across the board were reduced.

#5 how can you debate the bastion of LW rhetoric, the NYT?  I mean,
come on... if the NYT is actually going to say something good about
Bush you have to know it's true.

#'s 2 & 4 are far more vague, and we could probably find some common
ground there. But regardless, there are so many more negative things
about Bush that it hardly makes sense to waste much time on the
marginal points.

Anyway..  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you Mike. I need to go
stomp around a little in my gas sucking Z28, enjoying this global
warming while I can (it's over 70 today... some Christmas :(  ).


On Dec 23, 3:05 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> i am afraid i will just have to disagree with you on all counts
>
> On Dec 23, 2:13 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mike,
>
> > I'm no fan of Bush and am happy to see him go but, IMO, you're
> > rebuttal has its typical LW bias and is mostly incorrect;
>
> > 1- According to the IBC website there are between 89,959 – 98,218
> > documented violent deaths since the start of the war. I realize there
> > is a wide range of estimates out there, but IBC seems to have the most
> > solid, logical approach to counting/documenting. And you also need to
> > note that the majority of the deaths have come from terrorists
> > operating in Iraq and not the US military.
>
> > 2- You can still order drugs from overseas as long as it's for your
> > own personal use and does not exceed a 3 month supply. Regardless, the
> > plan has helped millions of American's who couldn't previously afford
> > their prescription drugs. If there is a specific scam, that should be
> > prosecuted, but none-the-less, the plan has been a success.
>
> > 3- Taxes were not raised on the poor and middle class. Taxes were cut
> > across the board.
>
> > 4- I have no idea what the connection between Neal Bush and s/w used
> > by the program, but that doesn't mean the effort to raise public
> > school performance shouldn't be acknowledged.
>
> > 5- This article - in the NYT's no less - paints a far different
> > picture than you 
> > present.http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/washington/05aids.html
>
> > On Dec 23, 4:24 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > well lets look at your answers lew
> > > #1 bush caused the death of over on million Iraqi's and four thousand
> > > of our our troops while disabling forty thousand young men and women .
> > > #2 the medicare prescription plan is a scam to help the medical
> > > insurance and prescription drug industry bilk the American people out
> > > of their money . in fact bush blocked any Evert's to import cheaper
> > > drugs from other countries to force us to buy the higher cost American
> > > drugs . #3 bush cut the amount of tax paid bu the wealthiest people
> > > while raising the tax poor and middle class people pay .  #4 if you
> > > check you will find Neal bush owns the patents on the software needed
> > > by the schools to teach  the students how to prepare for the mandated
> > > tests . making him huge amounts of money from the tax payers ! #5 bush
> > > promised help for aids relief in Africa then refused to send it so in
> > > effect he did nothing to help aids victums !
> > > ***************************************************************************­­­************
> > > On Dec 22, 2:21 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > 1.  Freed 50,000,000 of the world's people
>
> > > > 2.  Medicare prescription drug plan for seniors.  First add on in
> > > > Medicare history.
>
> > > > 3.  Lowere every income tax payers income tax payers siginficantly.
>
> > > > 4.  "No Child Left Behind"  has put accountiility into the educational
> > > > process.  Teacher Unions must produce.
>
> > > > 5.  Has done more to reduce AID's ikn on the African continent than
> > > > all the "caring countries" of the world combined.
>
> > > > On Dec 22, 1:58 pm, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Lew:
> > > > > Back up yours.
>
> > > > > On Dec 22, 1:55 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hollywood:
>
> > > > > > Backup your statement.
> > > > > > On Dec 22, 1:52 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > lew,
>
> > > > > > > Bullshit.
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 22, 12:51 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Yes.
>
> > > > > > > > George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the "Great 
> > > > > > > > Ones."
>
> > > > > > > > People 60- 75 years from now will scratch their heads and 
> > > > > > > > wonder why
> > > > > > > > these "loons" in 2001-2008 hated him so much.
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 1:45 pm, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
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