it is called sun spoy activity, bucko. look it up sometime. On Dec 25, 9:09 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > name the last missing glacier in the age of man......... I'll wait here.... > > and what causes them to, as you say "go". I believe that that would be > called a warming trend, no ??? Do you think MAN has "0" effect ?? > > Thanks for the admission. > > On 12/25/08, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > gee wizz, so only the liberal arrogance would believe that man is > > responsible. well bucko, here's a news flash for ya. glaciers come > > and glaciers go. it has happened all throughout the life of the > > earth. it has happened before man was around, and it will still be > > happenibg long after man is gone. it is called the natural cycle. > > curb you ego boy, you aren't to blame. > > > On Dec 25, 8:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > and I love that when reality bites you in the ass, like a missing > > > 20-50,000 year old galcier, it is simply discounted as no big deal by > > > you. It is proof of climate change/shift or call it global warming but > > > to discount the missing MASSIVE lacier is just being the idiot you > > > daily try to prove you are. > > > > On Dec 25, 5:40 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I just love how you lib totally ignore experts whose opinions do not > > > > fit into your agenda, while believing partisan hacks. so pitiful, so > > > > typical. > > > > > On Dec 25, 6:23 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > and your explanation for the now melted and missing glacier above La > > > > > Paz, Bolivia is...............?????? > > > > > > Oh, I know.... the socialist government !!!!!!!!! > > > > > > On Dec 25, 10:41 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > bwahahahahahahahahah do do some research murky. read some real > > > > > > studies by some real scientists instead of the liberal propaganda > > > > > > you > > > > > > subscribe to and you will find the overwhelming amount of scientists > > > > > > do not believe in warming and instead have found the earth is > > > > > > cooling. but you just prepare for the warming that will not be > > > > > > coming, murky. fool > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 11:34 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > call it the yellow snow if you want it is still global warming ! > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 10:09 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > yep I just love a good science fiction story. and why have the > > > > > > > > scam > > > > > > > > artists changed the name of their story from global warming, to > > > > > > > > climate change? why is that? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 9:28 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > have your mommy explain the difference between weather and > > > > > > > > > climate . > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 9:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Longer Drough??? > > > > > > > > > > > I have rain water coming in my basment. TODAY. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 8:52 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Faster Climate Change Feared > > > > > > > > > > > New Report Points to Accelerated Melting, Longer > > > > > > > > > > > Droughthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/24/AR200... > > > > > > > > > > > Ice sheets in the Antarctic and Greenland, above, are > > > > > > > > > > > losing 48 cubic > > > > > > > > > > > miles per year, pushing up sea level worldwide. The > > > > > > > > > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > faces the possibility of much more rapid climate change > > > > > > > > > > > by the end of > > > > > > > > > > > the century than previous studies have suggested, > > > > > > > > > > > according to a new > > > > > > > > > > > report led by the U.S. Geological Survey. > > > > > > > > > > > > The survey -- which was commissioned by the U.S. Climate > > > > > > > > > > > Change > > > > > > > > > > > Science Program and issued this month -- expands on the > > > > > > > > > > > 2007 findings > > > > > > > > > > > of the United Nations Intergovernment Panel on Climate > > > > > > > > > > > Change. Looking > > > > > > > > > > > at factors such as rapid sea ice loss in the Arctic and > > > > > > > > > > > prolonged > > > > > > > > > > > drought in the Southwest, the new assessment suggests > > > > > > > > > > > that earlier > > > > > > > > > > > projections may have underestimated the climatic shifts > > > > > > > > > > > that could > > > > > > > > > > > take place by 2100. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the assessment also suggests that some other > > > > > > > > > > > feared effects > > > > > > > > > > > of global warming are not likely to occur by the end of > > > > > > > > > > > the century, > > > > > > > > > > > such as an abrupt release of methane from the seabed and > > > > > > > > > > > permafrost or > > > > > > > > > > > a shutdown of the Atlantic Ocean circulation system that > > > > > > > > > > > brings warm > > > > > > > > > > > water north and colder water south. But the report > > > > > > > > > > > projects an amount > > > > > > > > > > > of potential sea level rise during that period that may > > > > > > > > > > > be greater > > > > > > > > > > > than what other researchers have anticipated, as well as > > > > > > > > > > > a shift to a > > > > > > > > > > > more arid climate pattern in the Southwest by mid-century. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thirty-two scientists from federal and non-federal > > > > > > > > > > > institutions > > > > > > > > > > > contributed to the report, which took nearly two years to > > > > > > > > > > > complete. > > > > > > > > > > > The Climate Change Science Program, which was established > > > > > > > > > > > in 1990, > > > > > > > > > > > coordinates the climate research of 13 different federal > > > > > > > > > > > agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Armstrong, senior adviser for global change programs > > > > > > > > > > > at USGS, said > > > > > > > > > > > the report "shows how quickly the information is > > > > > > > > > > > advancing" on > > > > > > > > > > > potential climate shifts. The prospect of abrupt climate > > > > > > > > > > > change, he > > > > > > > > > > > said, "is one of those things that keeps people up at > > > > > > > > > > > night, because > > > > > > > > > > > it's a low-probability but high-risk scenario. It's > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely to happen > > > > > > > > > > > in our lifetimes, but if it were to occur, it would be > > > > > > > > > > > life- > > > > > > > > > > > changing." > > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the report's most worrisome findings, the > > > > > > > > > > > agency estimates > > > > > > > > > > > that in light of recent ice sheet melting, global sea > > > > > > > > > > > level rise could > > > > > > > > > > > be as much as four feet by 2100. The IPCC had projected a > > > > > > > > > > > sea level > > > > > > > > > > > rise of no more than 1.5 feet by that time, but satellite > > > > > > > > > > > data over > > > > > > > > > > > the past two years show the world's major ice sheets are > > > > > > > > > > > melting much > > > > > > > > > > > more rapidly than previously thought. The Antarctic and > > > > > > > > > > > Greenland ice > > > > > > > > > > > sheets are now losing an average of 48 cubic miles of ice > > > > > > > > > > > a year, > > > > > > > > > > > equivalent to twice the amount of ice that exists in the > > > > > > > > > > > Alps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Konrad Steffen, who directs the Cooperative Institute for > > > > > > > > > > > Research in > > > > > > > > > > > Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado at > > > > > > > > > > > Boulder and > > > > > > > > > > > was lead author on the report's chapter on ice sheets, > > > > > > > > > > > said the models > > > > > > > > > > > the IPCC used did not factor in some of the dynamics that > > > > > > > > > > > scientists > > > > > > > > > > > now understand about ice sheet melting. Among other > > > > > > > > > > > things, Steffen > > > > > > > > > > > and his collaborators have identified a process of > > > > > > > > > > > "lubrication," in > > > > > > > > > > > which warmer ocean water gets in underneath coastal ice > > > > > > > > > > > sheets and > > > > > > > > > > > accelerates melting. > > > > > > > > > > > > "This has to be put into models," said Steffen, who > > > > > > > > > > > organized a > > > > > > > > > > > conference last summer in St. Petersburg, Russia, as part > > > > > > > > > > > of an effort > > > > > > > > > > > to develop more sophisticated ice sheet models. "What we > > > > > > > > > > > predicted is > > > > > > > > > > > sea level rise will be higher, but I have to be honest, > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot > > > > > > > > > > > model it for 2100 yet." > > > > > > > > > > > > Still, Armstrong said the report "does take a step > > > > > > > > > > > forward from where > > > > > > > > > > > the IPCC was," especially in terms of ice sheet melting. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists also looked at the prospect of prolonged > > > > > > > > > > > drought over the > > > > > > > > > > > next 100 years. They said it is impossible to determine > > > > > > > > > > > yet whether > > > > > > > > > > > human activity is responsible for the drought the > > > > > > > > > > > Southwestern United > > > > > > > > > > > States has experienced over the past decade, but every > > > > > > > > > > > indication > > > > > > > > > > > suggests the region will become consistently drier in the > > > > > > > > > > > next several > > > > > > > > > > > decades. Richard Seager, a senior research scientist at > > > > > > > > > > > Columbia > > > > > > > > > > > University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, said that > > > > > > > > > > > nearly all of > > > > > > > > > > > the 24 computer models the group surveyed project the > > > > > > > > > > > same climatic > > > > > > > > > > > conditions for the North American Southwest, which > > > > > > > > > > > includes Mexico. > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the models are correct, it will transition in the > > > > > > > > > > > coming years and > > > > > > > > > > > decades to a more arid climate, and that transition is > > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > underway," Seager said, adding that such conditions would > > > > > > > > > > > probably > > > > > > > > > > > include prolonged droughts lasting more than a decade. > > > > > > > > > > > > The current models cover broad swaths of landscape, and > > > > > > > > > > > Seager said > > > > > > > > > > > scientists need to work on developing versions that can > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > projections on a much smaller scale. "That's what the > > > > > > > > > > > water managers > > > > > > > > > > > out there really need," he said. Current models "don't > > > > > > > > > > > give them the > > > > > > > > > > > hard numbers they need." > > > > > > > > > > > > CONTINUED 1 2 Next >- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Mark M. Kahle > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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