and I love that when reality bites you in the ass, like a missing 20-50,000 year old galcier, it is simply discounted as no big deal by you. It is proof of climate change/shift or call it global warming but to discount the missing MASSIVE lacier is just being the idiot you daily try to prove you are.
On Dec 25, 5:40 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > I just love how you lib totally ignore experts whose opinions do not > fit into your agenda, while believing partisan hacks. so pitiful, so > typical. > > On Dec 25, 6:23 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > and your explanation for the now melted and missing glacier above La > > Paz, Bolivia is...............?????? > > > Oh, I know.... the socialist government !!!!!!!!! > > > On Dec 25, 10:41 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > bwahahahahahahahahah do do some research murky. read some real > > > studies by some real scientists instead of the liberal propaganda you > > > subscribe to and you will find the overwhelming amount of scientists > > > do not believe in warming and instead have found the earth is > > > cooling. but you just prepare for the warming that will not be > > > coming, murky. fool > > > > On Dec 25, 11:34 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > call it the yellow snow if you want it is still global warming ! > > > > > On Dec 25, 10:09 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > yep I just love a good science fiction story. and why have the scam > > > > > artists changed the name of their story from global warming, to > > > > > climate change? why is that? > > > > > > On Dec 25, 9:28 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > have your mommy explain the difference between weather and climate . > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 9:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Longer Drough??? > > > > > > > > I have rain water coming in my basment. TODAY. > > > > > > > > On Dec 25, 8:52 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Faster Climate Change Feared > > > > > > > > New Report Points to Accelerated Melting, Longer > > > > > > > > Droughthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/24/AR200... > > > > > > > > Ice sheets in the Antarctic and Greenland, above, are losing 48 > > > > > > > > cubic > > > > > > > > miles per year, pushing up sea level worldwide. The United > > > > > > > > States > > > > > > > > faces the possibility of much more rapid climate change by the > > > > > > > > end of > > > > > > > > the century than previous studies have suggested, according to > > > > > > > > a new > > > > > > > > report led by the U.S. Geological Survey. > > > > > > > > > The survey -- which was commissioned by the U.S. Climate Change > > > > > > > > Science Program and issued this month -- expands on the 2007 > > > > > > > > findings > > > > > > > > of the United Nations Intergovernment Panel on Climate Change. > > > > > > > > Looking > > > > > > > > at factors such as rapid sea ice loss in the Arctic and > > > > > > > > prolonged > > > > > > > > drought in the Southwest, the new assessment suggests that > > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > projections may have underestimated the climatic shifts that > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > take place by 2100. > > > > > > > > > However, the assessment also suggests that some other feared > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > > > of global warming are not likely to occur by the end of the > > > > > > > > century, > > > > > > > > such as an abrupt release of methane from the seabed and > > > > > > > > permafrost or > > > > > > > > a shutdown of the Atlantic Ocean circulation system that brings > > > > > > > > warm > > > > > > > > water north and colder water south. But the report projects an > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > > > of potential sea level rise during that period that may be > > > > > > > > greater > > > > > > > > than what other researchers have anticipated, as well as a > > > > > > > > shift to a > > > > > > > > more arid climate pattern in the Southwest by mid-century. > > > > > > > > > Thirty-two scientists from federal and non-federal institutions > > > > > > > > contributed to the report, which took nearly two years to > > > > > > > > complete. > > > > > > > > The Climate Change Science Program, which was established in > > > > > > > > 1990, > > > > > > > > coordinates the climate research of 13 different federal > > > > > > > > agencies. > > > > > > > > > Tom Armstrong, senior adviser for global change programs at > > > > > > > > USGS, said > > > > > > > > the report "shows how quickly the information is advancing" on > > > > > > > > potential climate shifts. The prospect of abrupt climate > > > > > > > > change, he > > > > > > > > said, "is one of those things that keeps people up at night, > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > it's a low-probability but high-risk scenario. It's unlikely to > > > > > > > > happen > > > > > > > > in our lifetimes, but if it were to occur, it would be life- > > > > > > > > changing." > > > > > > > > > In one of the report's most worrisome findings, the agency > > > > > > > > estimates > > > > > > > > that in light of recent ice sheet melting, global sea level > > > > > > > > rise could > > > > > > > > be as much as four feet by 2100. The IPCC had projected a sea > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > rise of no more than 1.5 feet by that time, but satellite data > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > the past two years show the world's major ice sheets are > > > > > > > > melting much > > > > > > > > more rapidly than previously thought. The Antarctic and > > > > > > > > Greenland ice > > > > > > > > sheets are now losing an average of 48 cubic miles of ice a > > > > > > > > year, > > > > > > > > equivalent to twice the amount of ice that exists in the Alps. > > > > > > > > > Konrad Steffen, who directs the Cooperative Institute for > > > > > > > > Research in > > > > > > > > Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado at Boulder > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > was lead author on the report's chapter on ice sheets, said the > > > > > > > > models > > > > > > > > the IPCC used did not factor in some of the dynamics that > > > > > > > > scientists > > > > > > > > now understand about ice sheet melting. Among other things, > > > > > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > > and his collaborators have identified a process of > > > > > > > > "lubrication," in > > > > > > > > which warmer ocean water gets in underneath coastal ice sheets > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > accelerates melting. > > > > > > > > > "This has to be put into models," said Steffen, who organized a > > > > > > > > conference last summer in St. Petersburg, Russia, as part of an > > > > > > > > effort > > > > > > > > to develop more sophisticated ice sheet models. "What we > > > > > > > > predicted is > > > > > > > > sea level rise will be higher, but I have to be honest, we > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > model it for 2100 yet." > > > > > > > > > Still, Armstrong said the report "does take a step forward from > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > the IPCC was," especially in terms of ice sheet melting. > > > > > > > > > Scientists also looked at the prospect of prolonged drought > > > > > > > > over the > > > > > > > > next 100 years. They said it is impossible to determine yet > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > human activity is responsible for the drought the Southwestern > > > > > > > > United > > > > > > > > States has experienced over the past decade, but every > > > > > > > > indication > > > > > > > > suggests the region will become consistently drier in the next > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > decades. Richard Seager, a senior research scientist at Columbia > > > > > > > > University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, said that nearly > > > > > > > > all of > > > > > > > > the 24 computer models the group surveyed project the same > > > > > > > > climatic > > > > > > > > conditions for the North American Southwest, which includes > > > > > > > > Mexico. > > > > > > > > > "If the models are correct, it will transition in the coming > > > > > > > > years and > > > > > > > > decades to a more arid climate, and that transition is already > > > > > > > > underway," Seager said, adding that such conditions would > > > > > > > > probably > > > > > > > > include prolonged droughts lasting more than a decade. > > > > > > > > > The current models cover broad swaths of landscape, and Seager > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > scientists need to work on developing versions that can make > > > > > > > > projections on a much smaller scale. "That's what the water > > > > > > > > managers > > > > > > > > out there really need," he said. Current models "don't give > > > > > > > > them the > > > > > > > > hard numbers they need." > > > > > > > > > CONTINUED 1 2 Next >- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
