And no firemen or policemen on the job either.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> The woes brought upon us in the aftermath of Katrina were the fault of
> a complacent DEMOCRAT Governor and a totally incompetant DEMOCRAT
> mayor of New Orleans. Had these two clowns been running NYC on 9/11
> there would still be a giant pile of burning rubble in lower Manhattan
> today.
>
> On Jan 16, 4:51 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 16, 3:48 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >  NBRE
> > > said it was March of 2001 because that was when we hit six continuous
> > > months of meeting the criteria of a recession, but that means the
> > > first four months of this occurred during the Clinton administration.
> >
> > The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee has determined that a peak
> > in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001.
> > A peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a
> > recession.
> > The determination of a peak date in March is thus a determination that
> > the
> > expansion that began in March 1991 ended in March 2001 and a
> > recession
> > began.
> > The expansion lasted exactly 10 years, the longest in the NBER's
> > chronology.
> >
> > Controversy over the precise dates of the recession led to the
> > characterization
> > of the recession as the "Clinton Recession" by Republicans, if it
> > could be
> > traced to the final term of President Bill Clinton.
> > A move in the recession date in a 2004 report by the Council of
> > Economic
> > Advisors to several months before the one given by the NBER was seen
> > as
> > politically motivated.
> >
> > 2004!
> > Revisionist history anyone?
> >
> > > The terrorist attacks of 9/11 had a major impact on the economy. His
> > > administration had eight months to detect and stop the attack but
> > > clearly the planning was going on long before he took office. The mess
> > > mostly landed in his lap – he did not create it.
> >
> > No, he ignored it and hoped for the best.
> > Even as just a mere citizen, I could never understand why security
> > was
> > so lax under Clinton or the "new sheriff in town" Bush Jr.
> >
> > > Enron, WorldCom and others were all products of the Internet paper
> > > economy, and their collapse clearly had a major impact on the economy.
> > > That mess landed in Bush's lap - he did not create it.
> >
> > I still don't understand why "the Enron loophole" that made all this
> > possible
> > hasn't been filled in after almost 8 years.
> >
> > > Katrina had a major impact on the economy. Regardless of how poorly it
> > > may have been handled, you can not disregard its effect on us. This
> > > too landed in Bush's lap - he did not create it.
> >
> > No he ignored that also.
> > I've said time and again that it wasn't Sec. Browns fault for the slow
> > response,
> > but rather the newly formed Homeland Security Sec. Michael Chertoff's
> > blocking Browns requests for assistance.
> >
> > No, none of this was Bush Jr.'s fault directly...he was too busy
> > singing songs
> > with country music stars, then flying overhead laughing at the people
> > on the
> > ground.
> >
> > No none of this is Bush's fault directly, he's only the one overseeing
> > it all.
> > The most innocent guy in the world.
> > Why shucks, this job practically runs itself.
> >
> > Which leads to another thing I forgot to post...
> > Bush Jr. promised he wouldn't increase the size of government.
> > He did.
> >
> > > None of this is an excuse, it's just the facts. It's intended to show
> > > that the simpleton view of Clinton was great, Bush was bad ignores the
> > > facts, yet this is exactly what you are doing.
> >
> > If you conveniently ignore the numbers, you're right.
> > But I'm not ignoring the numbers, because I am one.
> >
> > > Notice, btw, that I am not debating you on the current recession. I'm
> > > in full agreement that as a 'fiscal conservative', Bush was a
> > > nightmare. But lets not pretend Bush was handed a perfect economy, or
> > > that some unparalleled economic disasters, not of his making, didn't
> > > occurred during his presidency.
> >
> > He simply made most everything he touched worse through incompetency.
> >
>


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