Ghandi- partition of India/Pakistan. De Gaulle- Algeria, Indochine. Quotes are an easy refuge for politicians/speech writers. Maybe they make them up in the shower?
On Jan 16, 7:13 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > "What is a war criminal? Was not war itself a crime against God and > humanity, and, therefore, were not all those who sanctioned, > engineered, and conducted wars, war criminals? War criminals are not > confined to the Axis Powers alone. Roosevelt and Churchill are no less > war criminals than Hitler and Mussolini. England, America and Russia > have all of them got their hands dyed more or less red - not merely > Germany and Japan." > -Mohandas K. Gandhi > > "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, > when hate for people other than your own comes first." - Charles De > Gaulle > > Peace, > Doc > > On Jan 16, 6:43 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Next, explain why we thought it our duty to rescue the British and > > French colonial empires. Thank you. > > > On Jan 16, 6:20 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > OpEdNews > > > > Original Content > > > athttp://www.opednews.com/articles/When-are-we-going-to-stop-by-W-Chris... > > > > January 15, 2009 > > > > When are we going to stop being the United States of the AIPAC? > > > > By W. Christopher Epler (Bill) > > > > First, let's get some things straight. The AIPAC doesn't lobby (i.e., > > > "dictate") for the State of Israel; they lobby ONLY for the lunatic > > > right wing fringe of Israel. Said differently, they lobby for a > > > gaggle of extremist, billionaire religious fanatics. > > > > Israel's Labor Party, for example, is certainly not “represented” by > > > the AIPAC, nor are internet sites like J Street (among MANY others!) > > > who passionately speak for that large and honorable part of the Jewish > > > Community (in and out of Israel) who want to end the bloodshed with > > > diplomacy and compromise – not the rationalized genocide of the AIPAC. > > > > This matter would be basically insoluble if the war mongering AIPAC > > > was the true and complete voice of Israel, but the good news is that > > > they aren’t. Indeed, this incredibly costly smoke-screen illusion is > > > their ultimate power -- not their blood money bribes of nearly our > > > entire government or murder in the name of God “justifications”. > > > > If and when Americans finally take it in that a relatively small > > > number of VERY rich and VERY right wing Israeli's are controlling the > > > entire Middle East through their bought and paid for control of > > > America's foreign policy, we should feel an indescribable shame that > > > we have allowed our country to be reduced to an obedient pit bull of a > > > relative handful of elite/fundamentalists from ANOTHER COUNTRY! > > > > Surely, once a critical mass of patriotic Americans finally wakes up > > > and sees the "neocon cabal" for what they were (and still are), we > > > will tell them to take their blood money bribes and stick it where the > > > sun doesn't shine. > > > > My God, do we still even know how to spell words like morality and > > > rationality (obviously, our mouse-souled congress doesn't!), at the > > > same time we allow ourselves to be bought body and soul by these ultra > > > right wing fanatics? > > > > Also, we should also NEVER forget that the State of Israel DIDN'T > > > EVEN EXIST before Palestine was "internationally raped" by paper > > > decrees in 1948 (a carry over of the infinitely arrogant and genocidal > > > “British Empire”) which told them their country was no longer their > > > country, but a host, merely, for (surprise! surprise) “another > > > country”. > > > > However, they keep being punished for remembering that fact – > > > although you can be certain that even after a thousand years they will > > > never forget it. > > > > The extra layer of this tragic and unending blood bath is that not > > > only does the American Congress bend over on cue for the AIPAC, but > > > this lobby continues to successfully propagandize the B.S. that they > > > are lobbying for the entire State of Israel and the entire Jewish > > > Community. > > > > However, they are merely lobbying for THEIR OWN AGENDAS, just like > > > the KKK or skin head fascists would be lobbying for their agendas if > > > they had brainwashed the planet that they are "America's voice". > > > America's voice, hell! They're just a bunch of immoral barbarians who > > > represent only a miniscule percentage of Americans -- and exactly the > > > same thing is true for the AIPAC > > > > Our end of this is to realize that our (DLC = RNC) "government" has > > > mostly sold their souls to the AIPAC, so dealing with this Heart of > > > Darkness is going to have to come from apolitical, activist, patriotic > > > Americans. > > > > And oh yes, please don't be taken in by the everlastingly recycled > > > rationalization that unless we let them TOTALLY dictate America's > > > foreign policy, Israel will be pushed into the sea (their favorite > > > image, for some reason). "Pushed into the sea?" I think not since > > > they have intimidated our government to load them up with several > > > times over more atomic weaponry than the entire Islamic world > > > combined! > > > > Self evidently, Israel should be vigilantly self protective about a > > > nuclear attack, but how realistically probable is such an event, since > > > half the planet would be decimated in mater of hours if any country > > > was insane enough to attempt it -- thanks to the mountainous > > > stockpiles of “made in America” atomic nukes, etc. > > > > Hence, it’s imperative to see that's not the only issue and never has > > > been. The “other” issue was put into words by someone who objected to > > > a much milder submission of mine that (God forbid!) suggested some > > > real world "diplomacy" instead of this endless, lose/lose carnage. > > > > His response (you better sit down for this) was that if the > > > Palestinians really wanted diplomacy, why doesn't another Arab country > > > just take them all into their country? Duh! > > > > So even though before 1948, Palestine was 100% PALESTINE, this self > > > righteous (and haven’t you noticed that all AIPAC “justifications” are > > > always nauseatingly self righteous?) psycho was saying they should all > > > “just leave” so the country can be totally Israel. > > > > Well, did the other shoe just drop and is THIS is secret agenda of > > > the AIPAC? > > > > Of course, none of this justifies murder in "either direction" (which > > > is what makes it lose/lose for the pitiful political pawns of both > > > groups), but it would be criminally naive to discount a TOTAL take > > > over agenda of Palestine by extremist right wing Israeli's. > > > > God willing, once Bush's "kill a Muslim for Christ" insanity no > > > longer gives a green light to the AIPAC, Obama will supply a > > > negotiated level playing field and this tragic horror show will > > > finally come to some kind peaceful and even win/win resolution. > > > > And THEN we'll kick the AIPAC out of America’s foreign policy > > > decisions once and for all! Gee, wouldn't it be nice if AMERICAN'S > > > determined their OWN foreign policy -- not a fraternity of billionaire > > > religious fanatics from another country? > > > > How ashamed our genius constitutional forefathers must be of us, > > > since they constructed fire wall after fire wall to keep inviolate the > > > Church and State separation, and here we are caving into exactly what > > > they tried to protect us from -- except it's even worse since our > > > government of elite dem/pug puppets (with courageous exceptions who > > > prove the rule) keeps sucking up to an acronym from another country! > > > Time to kick the bums out. Time to be AMERICANS again. > > > > And time to give our very, very best shot to pouring oil on these > > > infinitely troubled waters. My God, too much death, too much greed, > > > too much mutual massacre . . . and too many dead and dying children. > > > > Enough! Enough! Enough!>end > > > > Peace, > > > Doc- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
