bush was ahead of gore ? yup you betcha wink wink ! On Feb 3, 11:53 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike, > > The difference is this; > > In FL, at no time was Bush not ahead of Gore. Despite various > recounts, Bush was always in the lead. FL law gave 7 days for the > recounts, and the Democrats took it all the way to the USSC in an > effort to change FL laws on the fly to provide more time for recounts > in three predominantly Democratic counties. They couldn’t change the > law and lost the election. The National Opinion Research Center at the > University of Chicago, sponsored by a consortium of major U.S. news > organizations, conducted a Florida Ballot Project comprehensive review > of all ballots uncounted (by machine) in the Florida 2000 presidential > election, both undervotes and overvotes, with the main research aim > being to report how different ballot layouts correlate with voter > mistakes. The results of the study showed that had the limited county > by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush > would still have been the winner of the election. > > In MN, Coleman led after the initial vote recount. Since then there > have been numerous irregularities noted in how the recounts have been > handled (more votes than voters; including previously rejected > absentee ballots mostly from predominantly Democratic areas while > continuing to reject those from Republican areas; inconsistent recount > methods – using ballot counts one time, voting machine counts another, > and in each case the decision meant more votes for Franken; etc.). > Once they found enough votes for Franken to win, the commission > certified the election even though Coleman was disputing the results. > > The other difference is; > > In FL, Bush won the vote on election night and he won every other > recount ever done, including the results of the NORC study, but you > claim the election was stolen. > - Whereas - > In MN, Coleman won the vote on election night, Franken – after > numerous recounts and many claims of irregularities – comes out on top > and you claim it’s a legitimate election. > > Ah yes, there is no doubting your partisanship. > > On Feb 3, 5:17 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > the difference is that the republicans could not get away with it this > > time because the world was watching them . > > > On Feb 3, 12:57 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ah, so the guy who charges the FL election committee, the FL Secretary > > > of State, the FL Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court all 'stole' an > > > election now has all the faith in the world that an election committee > > > and the MN Secretary of State isn't stealing an election. You're > > > nothing if not consistent and entertaining. > > > > “In other cases, the board has been flagrantly inconsistent. Last > > > month, Mr. Franken's campaign charged that one Hennepin County > > > (Minneapolis) precinct had "lost" 133 votes, since the hand recount > > > showed fewer ballots than machine votes recorded on Election Night. > > > Though there is no proof to this missing vote charge -- officials may > > > have accidentally run the ballots through the machine twice on > > > Election Night -- the Canvassing Board chose to go with the Election > > > Night total, rather than the actual number of ballots in the recount. > > > That decision gave Mr. Franken a gain of 46 votes. Meanwhile, a Ramsey > > > County precinct ended up with 177 more ballots than there were > > > recorded votes on Election Night. In that case, the board decided to > > > go with the extra ballots, rather than the Election Night total, even > > > though the county is now showing more ballots than voters in the > > > precinct. This gave Mr. Franken a net gain of 37 votes, which means > > > he's benefited both ways from the board's inconsistency.” > > > > Gee, I wonder if HBO will produce a feature length movie on the > > > stealing of the MN Senate Race. > > > > On Feb 3, 12:07 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > lady if YOU had bothered to follow the election you would know that > > > > there wasn't any double voting as certified by the election > > > > committee . now if you have proof of your claims other than rumors > > > > started by coleman and the fox channel please post them > > > > > On Feb 3, 9:42 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If a precinct has 100 voters and they have 122 ballots which the > > > > > Democrats insist on counting, there are 22 voters who voter twice... > > > > > And that is what has happened in Minnesota... If you had followed > > > > > the recount closely, YOW WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS... But instead you > > > > > call others names because pesky facts insist you extreme partisan > > > > > positions are taken for party loyality rather than truth or honest > > > > > debate... > > > > > > On Feb 3, 4:58 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > sunshine you are full of shit post the proof that minnesota allowed > > > > > > double voting ! > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 9:12 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You demand perfection from your opponents and excuse imperfection > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > your friends -- typical... But for one who POV was willing to > > > > > > > PERFECTLY willing to allow Saddam and family to remain in power, > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > claim democracy in Iraqi isn't because of glitches in voting... > > > > > > > FYI, > > > > > > > it is NOT that glitches exist, but how the system handles them... > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > Minnesota they allowed double voting, which I think is wrong... > > > > > > > Have > > > > > > > a problem??? Ask why the Democrats in Minnestoa allow double > > > > > > > voting... > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 7:57 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Calm Iraqi Election Marred as Thousands Were Denied > > > > > > > > Votehttp://www.truthout.org/020109C > > > > > > > > Leila Fadel, McClatchy Newspapers: "Iraqis cast ballots in 14 > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > country's 18 provinces Saturday, selecting among 14,500 > > > > > > > > candidates > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 440 seats on new provincial councils. The day was free of > > > > > > > > election- > > > > > > > > related violence, but thousands of Iraqis were unable to vote > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > their names were inexplicably missing from voter lists. Some > > > > > > > > confused > > > > > > > > Iraqis even wandered neighborhoods looking for a polling place > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > would accept their vote."- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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