Mike, The difference is this;
In FL, at no time was Bush not ahead of Gore. Despite various recounts, Bush was always in the lead. FL law gave 7 days for the recounts, and the Democrats took it all the way to the USSC in an effort to change FL laws on the fly to provide more time for recounts in three predominantly Democratic counties. They couldn’t change the law and lost the election. The National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, sponsored by a consortium of major U.S. news organizations, conducted a Florida Ballot Project comprehensive review of all ballots uncounted (by machine) in the Florida 2000 presidential election, both undervotes and overvotes, with the main research aim being to report how different ballot layouts correlate with voter mistakes. The results of the study showed that had the limited county by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush would still have been the winner of the election. In MN, Coleman led after the initial vote recount. Since then there have been numerous irregularities noted in how the recounts have been handled (more votes than voters; including previously rejected absentee ballots mostly from predominantly Democratic areas while continuing to reject those from Republican areas; inconsistent recount methods – using ballot counts one time, voting machine counts another, and in each case the decision meant more votes for Franken; etc.). Once they found enough votes for Franken to win, the commission certified the election even though Coleman was disputing the results. The other difference is; In FL, Bush won the vote on election night and he won every other recount ever done, including the results of the NORC study, but you claim the election was stolen. - Whereas - In MN, Coleman won the vote on election night, Franken – after numerous recounts and many claims of irregularities – comes out on top and you claim it’s a legitimate election. Ah yes, there is no doubting your partisanship. On Feb 3, 5:17 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> wrote: > the difference is that the republicans could not get away with it this > time because the world was watching them . > > On Feb 3, 12:57 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ah, so the guy who charges the FL election committee, the FL Secretary > > of State, the FL Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court all 'stole' an > > election now has all the faith in the world that an election committee > > and the MN Secretary of State isn't stealing an election. You're > > nothing if not consistent and entertaining. > > > “In other cases, the board has been flagrantly inconsistent. Last > > month, Mr. Franken's campaign charged that one Hennepin County > > (Minneapolis) precinct had "lost" 133 votes, since the hand recount > > showed fewer ballots than machine votes recorded on Election Night. > > Though there is no proof to this missing vote charge -- officials may > > have accidentally run the ballots through the machine twice on > > Election Night -- the Canvassing Board chose to go with the Election > > Night total, rather than the actual number of ballots in the recount. > > That decision gave Mr. Franken a gain of 46 votes. Meanwhile, a Ramsey > > County precinct ended up with 177 more ballots than there were > > recorded votes on Election Night. In that case, the board decided to > > go with the extra ballots, rather than the Election Night total, even > > though the county is now showing more ballots than voters in the > > precinct. This gave Mr. Franken a net gain of 37 votes, which means > > he's benefited both ways from the board's inconsistency.” > > > Gee, I wonder if HBO will produce a feature length movie on the > > stealing of the MN Senate Race. > > > On Feb 3, 12:07 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > lady if YOU had bothered to follow the election you would know that > > > there wasn't any double voting as certified by the election > > > committee . now if you have proof of your claims other than rumors > > > started by coleman and the fox channel please post them > > > > On Feb 3, 9:42 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If a precinct has 100 voters and they have 122 ballots which the > > > > Democrats insist on counting, there are 22 voters who voter twice... > > > > And that is what has happened in Minnesota... If you had followed > > > > the recount closely, YOW WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS... But instead you > > > > call others names because pesky facts insist you extreme partisan > > > > positions are taken for party loyality rather than truth or honest > > > > debate... > > > > > On Feb 3, 4:58 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > sunshine you are full of shit post the proof that minnesota allowed > > > > > double voting ! > > > > > > On Feb 2, 9:12 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You demand perfection from your opponents and excuse imperfection in > > > > > > your friends -- typical... But for one who POV was willing to > > > > > > PERFECTLY willing to allow Saddam and family to remain in power, you > > > > > > claim democracy in Iraqi isn't because of glitches in voting... > > > > > > FYI, > > > > > > it is NOT that glitches exist, but how the system handles them... > > > > > > In > > > > > > Minnesota they allowed double voting, which I think is wrong... > > > > > > Have > > > > > > a problem??? Ask why the Democrats in Minnestoa allow double > > > > > > voting... > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 7:57 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Calm Iraqi Election Marred as Thousands Were Denied > > > > > > > Votehttp://www.truthout.org/020109C > > > > > > > Leila Fadel, McClatchy Newspapers: "Iraqis cast ballots in 14 of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > country's 18 provinces Saturday, selecting among 14,500 candidates > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > 440 seats on new provincial councils. The day was free of > > > > > > > election- > > > > > > > related violence, but thousands of Iraqis were unable to vote > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > their names were inexplicably missing from voter lists. 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