ok, I can go with ignorant. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mrs. Rabbit <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wouldn't call them wacho, just not educated. > > > > > > On Feb 18, 1:52 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> I, too, have an adopted daughter. I do believe in the sanctity of >> life. We simply differ as to what qualifies as "life". I am very sure >> neither of us will change his mind. >> >> I feel as I always have as you do.... it is the Mothers choice. I am >> not qualified nor is any other human. >> >> What is done is purely between the "mother" and her particular "god". >> I also support the right of a doctor to do or not perform an abortion. >> >> Prevention is always the best choice but the wacko fringe of the >> religious right want to delete that choice as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Mrs. Rabbit <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Mike, is that you in there? :o) j/k >> >> > Mark, I have never ever heard an unborn baby be called a parasite, but >> > I'm sure some women/men may have that feeling towards an unwanted >> > child. I know, I adopted one of these *parasites*. Gosh, I'm >> > surprised, to say the least, to learn you actually believe an unborn >> > baby is a parasite. >> >> > Now, as to how old a fetus needs to be to survive outside the womb: >> >> > When men talk about pregnancy in months, it just kills me! To get >> > down to the nitty griddy, we need to talk in matter of weeks. There >> > are recorded births of babies that were born at 21 weeks and >> > survived. For ya men folk, that's 4 months and 1 week. :D >> >> > The real question that science will have the answer to, is WHEN does >> > life begin? Is it when the heart beats? When brainwaves are >> > detected? When the baby is born? >> >> > To PREVENT an unwanted pregnancy is the key. Abortion should be >> > allowed in cases of rape or when the mothers life is at stake >> > (remember, the parasite needs the host to survive). But honestly, >> > it's being used as a form of birthcontrol, which is completely >> > preventable. There are meds that a woman can take that will PREVENT >> > (there's that word again) the sperm from reaching the egg(s). >> > Education, education, education both sexes will be our only saving >> > grace. >> >> > I will always vote to support abortion rights and honestly, do not >> > feel that a man (other than the birth father) should have any say, >> > whatsoever, as to what a woman does to her body. As for the >> > Christians who view abortion as murder (which by my def. is not murder >> > if aborted before brainwaves are present), that is something between >> > the pregnant woman and her God. Besides, from what I've always been >> > taught, all children go to heaven! >> >> > Just my two cents.... >> >> > On Feb 17, 8:45 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It is a parasite until the mother says otherwise. >> >> >> On Feb 17, 7:16 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > how so? >> >> >> > On Feb 17, 7:59 pm, "J.C." <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > I am sure the speech was magnificent; however, it isn't entirely >> >> > > factual. >> >> >> > > On Feb 17, 3:07 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > poor libs just cannot stands opposing points of view. even from a >> >> > > > 12 >> >> > > > yr old girl. how pitiful. >> >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 6:21 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > Despite facing threats of disqualification, a 12-year-old girl >> >> > > > > took >> >> > > > > first place in a speech contest when she eloquently argued for the >> >> > > > > rights of unborn children – after an offended judge quit. >> >> >> > > > > "What if I told you that right now, someone was choosing if you >> >> > > > > were >> >> > > > > going to live or die?" the seventh-grader begins in a video >> >> > > > > recording >> >> > > > > of her speech on YouTube. "What if I told you that this choice >> >> > > > > wasn't >> >> > > > > based on what you could or couldn't do, what you'd done in the >> >> > > > > past or >> >> > > > > what you would do in the future? And what if I told you, you >> >> > > > > could do >> >> > > > > nothing about it?" >> >> >> > > > > The girl, a student at a Toronto school identified only as "Lia," >> >> > > > > continued: >> >> >> > > > > "Fellow students and teachers, thousands of children are right >> >> > > > > now in >> >> > > > > that very situation. Someone is choosing without even knowing them >> >> > > > > whether they are going to live or die. >> >> >> > > > > "That someone is their mother. And that choice is abortion." >> >> >> > > > > Despite Lia's enthusiasm for her topic, her teacher "strongly >> >> > > > > encouraged" her to select a different one for her class >> >> > > > > presentation >> >> > > > > or she would be considered ineligible for an upcoming speech >> >> > > > > contest. >> >> >> > > > > "[S]everal teachers discouraged her from picking the topic of >> >> > > > > abortion; she was told it was 'too big,' 'too mature' and 'too >> >> > > > > controversial,'" her mother wrote. "She was also told that if she >> >> > > > > went >> >> > > > > ahead with that topic, she would not be allowed to continue on in >> >> > > > > the >> >> > > > > speech competition." >> >> >> > > > > Lia's mother continued, "Initially, I tried helping her find other >> >> > > > > topics to speak on, but, in the end, she was adamant. She just >> >> > > > > felt >> >> > > > > she wanted to continue with the topic of abortion. So she >> >> > > > > forfeited >> >> > > > > her chance to compete in order to speak on something she was >> >> > > > > passionate about." >> >> >> > > > > Lia's teacher was so impressed by the speech that she allowed her >> >> > > > > student to advance as the winner. Lia presented her speech to >> >> > > > > judges >> >> > > > > in front of her entire school on Feb. 10. >> >> >> > > > > The school principal and teachers called Lia's presentation the >> >> > > > > "obvious winner" – but the judges suddenly disqualified her the >> >> > > > > following day "because of the topic and her position on >> >> > > > > abortion," her >> >> > > > > mother said. >> >> >> > > > > Lia's father later revealed that the judges had a "big >> >> > > > > disagreement." >> >> > > > > One was offended by the speech and voluntarily stepped down while >> >> > > > > the >> >> > > > > others reversed their earlier decision – declaring her the winner. >> >> >> > > > > Now Lia plans to take her message of life to a regional speech >> >> > > > > competition, and more than 100,000 visitors have viewed her >> >> > > > > presentation online. >> >> >> > > > > "Why do we think that just because a fetus can't talk or do what >> >> > > > > we >> >> > > > > do, it isn't a human being yet?" She asks in the video. "Some >> >> > > > > babies >> >> > > > > are born after only five months. Is this baby not human? >> >> >> > > > > "We would never say that. Yet abortions are performed on >> >> > > > > 5-month-old >> >> > > > > fetuses all the time. Or do we only call them humans if they're >> >> > > > > wanted?" >> >> >> > > > > She continues, "No, fetuses are definitely humans – knit together >> >> > > > > in >> >> > > > > their mother's womb by their wonderful Creator who knows them all >> >> > > > > by >> >> > > > > name." >> >> >> > > > >http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89135-Hidequot...- >> >> >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> Mark M. Kahle, ,www.filacoffee.com- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >
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