I, too, have an adopted daughter. I do believe in the sanctity of life. We simply differ as to what qualifies as "life". I am very sure neither of us will change his mind.
I feel as I always have as you do.... it is the Mothers choice. I am not qualified nor is any other human. What is done is purely between the "mother" and her particular "god". I also support the right of a doctor to do or not perform an abortion. Prevention is always the best choice but the wacko fringe of the religious right want to delete that choice as well. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Mrs. Rabbit <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike, is that you in there? :o) j/k > > Mark, I have never ever heard an unborn baby be called a parasite, but > I'm sure some women/men may have that feeling towards an unwanted > child. I know, I adopted one of these *parasites*. Gosh, I'm > surprised, to say the least, to learn you actually believe an unborn > baby is a parasite. > > Now, as to how old a fetus needs to be to survive outside the womb: > > When men talk about pregnancy in months, it just kills me! To get > down to the nitty griddy, we need to talk in matter of weeks. There > are recorded births of babies that were born at 21 weeks and > survived. For ya men folk, that's 4 months and 1 week. :D > > The real question that science will have the answer to, is WHEN does > life begin? Is it when the heart beats? When brainwaves are > detected? When the baby is born? > > To PREVENT an unwanted pregnancy is the key. Abortion should be > allowed in cases of rape or when the mothers life is at stake > (remember, the parasite needs the host to survive). But honestly, > it's being used as a form of birthcontrol, which is completely > preventable. There are meds that a woman can take that will PREVENT > (there's that word again) the sperm from reaching the egg(s). > Education, education, education both sexes will be our only saving > grace. > > I will always vote to support abortion rights and honestly, do not > feel that a man (other than the birth father) should have any say, > whatsoever, as to what a woman does to her body. As for the > Christians who view abortion as murder (which by my def. is not murder > if aborted before brainwaves are present), that is something between > the pregnant woman and her God. Besides, from what I've always been > taught, all children go to heaven! > > Just my two cents.... > > > > > > On Feb 17, 8:45 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> It is a parasite until the mother says otherwise. >> >> On Feb 17, 7:16 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > how so? >> >> > On Feb 17, 7:59 pm, "J.C." <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I am sure the speech was magnificent; however, it isn't entirely >> > > factual. >> >> > > On Feb 17, 3:07 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > poor libs just cannot stands opposing points of view. even from a 12 >> > > > yr old girl. how pitiful. >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 6:21 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > Despite facing threats of disqualification, a 12-year-old girl took >> > > > > first place in a speech contest when she eloquently argued for the >> > > > > rights of unborn children – after an offended judge quit. >> >> > > > > "What if I told you that right now, someone was choosing if you were >> > > > > going to live or die?" the seventh-grader begins in a video recording >> > > > > of her speech on YouTube. "What if I told you that this choice wasn't >> > > > > based on what you could or couldn't do, what you'd done in the past >> > > > > or >> > > > > what you would do in the future? And what if I told you, you could do >> > > > > nothing about it?" >> >> > > > > The girl, a student at a Toronto school identified only as "Lia," >> > > > > continued: >> >> > > > > "Fellow students and teachers, thousands of children are right now in >> > > > > that very situation. Someone is choosing without even knowing them >> > > > > whether they are going to live or die. >> >> > > > > "That someone is their mother. And that choice is abortion." >> >> > > > > Despite Lia's enthusiasm for her topic, her teacher "strongly >> > > > > encouraged" her to select a different one for her class presentation >> > > > > or she would be considered ineligible for an upcoming speech contest. >> >> > > > > "[S]everal teachers discouraged her from picking the topic of >> > > > > abortion; she was told it was 'too big,' 'too mature' and 'too >> > > > > controversial,'" her mother wrote. "She was also told that if she >> > > > > went >> > > > > ahead with that topic, she would not be allowed to continue on in the >> > > > > speech competition." >> >> > > > > Lia's mother continued, "Initially, I tried helping her find other >> > > > > topics to speak on, but, in the end, she was adamant. She just felt >> > > > > she wanted to continue with the topic of abortion. So she forfeited >> > > > > her chance to compete in order to speak on something she was >> > > > > passionate about." >> >> > > > > Lia's teacher was so impressed by the speech that she allowed her >> > > > > student to advance as the winner. Lia presented her speech to judges >> > > > > in front of her entire school on Feb. 10. >> >> > > > > The school principal and teachers called Lia's presentation the >> > > > > "obvious winner" – but the judges suddenly disqualified her the >> > > > > following day "because of the topic and her position on abortion," >> > > > > her >> > > > > mother said. >> >> > > > > Lia's father later revealed that the judges had a "big disagreement." >> > > > > One was offended by the speech and voluntarily stepped down while the >> > > > > others reversed their earlier decision – declaring her the winner. >> >> > > > > Now Lia plans to take her message of life to a regional speech >> > > > > competition, and more than 100,000 visitors have viewed her >> > > > > presentation online. >> >> > > > > "Why do we think that just because a fetus can't talk or do what we >> > > > > do, it isn't a human being yet?" She asks in the video. "Some babies >> > > > > are born after only five months. Is this baby not human? >> >> > > > > "We would never say that. Yet abortions are performed on 5-month-old >> > > > > fetuses all the time. Or do we only call them humans if they're >> > > > > wanted?" >> >> > > > > She continues, "No, fetuses are definitely humans – knit together in >> > > > > their mother's womb by their wonderful Creator who knows them all by >> > > > > name." >> >> > > > >http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89135-Hidequotedtext >> > > > > - >> >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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