Individuals do have the right to smoke in public, and there is absolutely no proof that their smoking can in any way affect your health.
Tobacco is a legal commodity here in the United States, and taxed unmercifully. Personally, I smoked enough cigarettes to build the interstate system that you drive upon to go to work, and the school that your children attend!! (I smoke no longer by the way) It is socialists and far left extremists who wish to "regulate" something that they have no business being involved in, which is to dictate to private business what legal products they can allow to be utilized in their places of business. By example, you can buy cigarettes in a restaurant/bar that I frequent, but you can no longer smoke those cigarettes that you buy within the establishment. Asinine, to say the least. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Philobealo <[email protected]> wrote: > > I admit that people have the right to smoke, but they don't have the > right to do it in a public place where they can affect other people's > health. If someone wants to ruin their health, I say go for it, but > they're not taking me down with them. > > On Mar 12, 6:10 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > Now that is just wrong and a lie. Most smokers are conscious of their > > environment. If I am at a table in a restaurant smoking and you CHOOSE > > to sit there instead of a different table (whether there is one or > > not) or a different restaurant that is YOUR choice. You choose instaed > > to impose your belief on me by outlawing my harmless vice. Again and > > again and again, there IS NO PROOF that second hand smoke does ANY > > harm. Your personal likes and dislikes are YOUR, NOT my, problem. > > > > Other side of the coin if I enter and see no ashtray at your table I > > politely ask if you mind... if you do I either don't smoke or I change > > my locale. > > > > It works. > > > > If I go into a bar with smokers it is my problem, not that of the > > smokers. Same with anywhere else that permits smoking. > > > > The BIG problem with these laws is they do not allow establishments to > > choose their status... smoking or not, it does infringe on my and the > > establishments to choose.. > > > > On Mar 12, 2:48 pm, Philobealo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The difference between smoking and those other vices, is that when you > > > choose to smoke, you also choose that I smoke is well. When you choose > > > to harm your health, you also choose to harm my health, when you > > > choose to stink like a dead carcass, you also choose that I stink like > > > a dead carcass.... > > > > > On Mar 12, 3:45 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > My 87 year old, three pack, a day father just died of "natural > > > > causes'. His 97 year old Mother died of the same cause... 2+ packs a > > > > day. They are not the exception. Your are or are not pre disposed to > > > > cancer, it is that simple. > > > > > > as for the rest I agree with Keith entirely.... There is NO proven > > > > link between cancer and second hand smoke and a LOT of money has been > > > > spent and a lot of rats, pigs, dogs and cats have died trying to > prove > > > > it. > > > > > > On Mar 12, 1:22 pm, Philobealo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > By the way, my wife's non-smoking 90-year old great-grandmother is > > > > > still with us. > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2:18 pm, Philobealo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > My wife just watched her 63-year old mother waste away and die of > lung > > > > > > cancer after smoking most of her adult life. I then went to the > > > > > > funeral of a 47-year old smoking coworker who died of lung > cancer. > > > > > > Don't tell me that smoking is not harmful. > > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 1:56 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The tobacco companies were so profitable it is no wonder the > > > > > > > government and insurance companies went after them. It might > happen to > > > > > > > liquor, as well// I am from a very healthy generation and all > the > > > > > > > parents smoked and so did we. The rise in autism and breast > cancer can > > > > > > > be traced to children abandoned to childcare by working mothers > and > > > > > > > the "pill".//You fail to address lung cancer in non-smokers- > from > > > > > > > various industries, sealed air in offices and homes, other > exposures- > > > > > > > or 90 year olds who continue to smoke. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 12:23 pm, Philobealo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > from my local paper > > > > > > > > > > With regard to the recent letters about smoking bans at > restaurants > > > > > > > > and other public accommodation venues, I would prefer to > think of it > > > > > > > > not as an issue of freedom of economic choice for the > restaurant > > > > > > > > owner. I prefer to think of it as an issue of workplace > health and > > > > > > > > safety. > > > > > > > > > > As long as leading health experts not funded by tobacco > companies are > > > > > > > > in agreement that smoking and second-hand smoke are indeed > injurious > > > > > > > > to the health of those affected by both, it would behoove > government > > > > > > > > to set the health and safety requirements for people who do > not smoke > > > > > > > > but find themselves employed by these venues. > > > > > > > > > > The person working in such venues should not have to choose > between > > > > > > > > keeping their job or their health. I, for one, would not want > my tax > > > > > > > > dollars paying for the health care of a person who wished > only to work > > > > > > > > for a living, but ends up contracting a smoking-related > illness. A ban > > > > > > > > on smoking in public venues is not an intrusion on private > enterprise > > > > > > > > as much as it’s minimal government interference in a personal > habit > > > > > > > > that affects the health and pocketbooks of innocent citizens. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Munro, Angleton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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