If "we" could get the damned FDA out of the way we might learn how to
take care of ourselves and "Be The Man" and heal ourselves! Fuck
prohibition!


http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/12/27/the-war-on-drugs-us-vs-netherlands/

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is
a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds
of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by
legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A
Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our
government was founded."

-Abraham Lincoln (1809-65) U.S. President.

Speech, 18 Dec. 1840, to Illinois House of Representatives

Peace,
Doc

On Mar 26, 1:41 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> social medicine works
> ---
> your healthcare is your responsibility - not the governments
>
> On Mar 26, 11:58 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think you tax predators and their flaks are even 50% yet.
>
> > But no matter.  You were dependent on being able to sell China and others
> > promissary notes where you promised to parasitize and enslave future
> > generations of tax slaves to pay back the debt on any money they would loan
> > you
>
> > And they aren't buying any more
>
> > So your system of slavery is going to collapse soon anyway
>
> > Or are you some little cannon fodder dupe who believes the pseudo class
> > analysis your Hitlers fed you?
>
> > No matter
>
> > you will be starving and in a food riot during the hyper-inflation anyway
>
> > you don't sound smart enough to survive
>
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >    Sure. Go for it, if you think your 5% of the population can take the
> > > other 95% of us.
>
> > > Of course, you're probably not in the top 5% anyway, unless you married
> > > well.
>
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *bruce majors
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:38 AM
> > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > *Subject:* Re: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social medicine
> > > works
>
> > > so then there is no reason for we productive people to just have you shot
> > > then
>
> > > since you have announced your intentions to rape, mug, and rob
>
> > > very good then
>
> > > your name is on the list for the revolution
>
> > > do you currently live off your mommie?  is she conscious btw?  do you just
> > > cash her disability checks for her?
>
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>   I have no sympathy for the very wealthy and could care less if they're
> > >> being
> > >> asked to ante up more money.
>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: 
> > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:41 AM
> > >> To: 
> > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Subject: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social medicine 
> > >> works
>
> > >> I don't know if you read the part of my post about my uncle, but the
> > >> ironic
> > >> thing is that his life was built upon the back of working class people,
> > >> namely my grandparents. My grandpa retired from schilling spice company 
> > >> in
> > >> the werehouse department. My grandma owned a beauty salon for 30 some
> > >> years. My uncle took advantage of this stable working class familly
> > >> environement to become the success story he is. But now he patronizes my
> > >> mothers side of the familly, my mother was the black sheep so to speak. 
> > >> We
> > >> have Christmas dinner with them every year and play act like we like each
> > >> other. But the atmosphere is so phoney it makes me want to puke 
> > >> sometimes.
> > >> This is probably a big reason why I have little patience for the very
> > >> wealthy. I'm every bit as intelligent as my two cousins, but they got the
> > >> private school educations, bought and paid for by daddy, while I funded 
> > >> my
> > >> own city college education which I would have finished had I not
> > >> discovered
> > >> the stock market. I've been a cl
> > >> ose observer of both sides of the tracks in my time, and I feel I have a
> > >> unique perspective.
> > >>  --- In 
> > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >> "Ray" <rz...@...> wrote:
>
> > >> > The insurance companies are just a bad middleman that provide no added
> > >> > value to the process.
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: 
> > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:51 AM
> > >> > To: 
> > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social medicine
> > >> > works
>
> > >> > My sisters familly is insured through Kaiser for around a $1000 a
> > >> > month for four individuals. She hates the coverage she gets. Doctors
> > >> > waste her time referring her to specialist after specialist at the
> > >> > additional cost of 20 dollars per visit not to mention personal time
> > >> > lost that could be used to either make money or just spend the day in
> > >> > her garden. The reason her doctors give her the run-around is to fund
> > >> > the system with more money on top of her monthy payment, and to
> > >> > discourage her from getting care. Our system sucks unless your very
> > >> > wealthy and can afford top of the line insurance like my Uncles
> > >> > familly who are very wealthy. They're in Arizona taking in Spring
> > >> > training, and doing some more business I'm sure, as I speak. They
> > >> > spend practiaclly half the year traveling while the regular working
> > >> > people are left to suffer most of the wet grey winter here in Oregon.
> > >> > My uncle is loaded, and I know he could afford more taxes. He owns a
> > >> > brand new condo in down town Portlan d and a condo in Lake Tahoe for
> > >> > good measure. All this in addition to a 20-30 acre farm in the rich
> > >> > suburban community of Wilsonville. He used to live in a mansion in a
> > >> > local rich area called Lake Oswego when he was in his prime earning
> > >> > years. And as if he needed any more wealth, he stands to inherit more
> > >> > money and property when my grandma dies. He, his wife, and two
> > >> > childrens famillies are living it up. I'm sure they, along with other
> > >> > wealthy people like them in this country can afford the extra taxes so
> > >> > the rest of society can get a good education and health care. I don't
> > >> > know how he can live with himself knowing that so many poor people are
> > >> suffering so badly. I think he's been brainwashed by conservative talking
> > >> heads who've
> > >> > convinced him it's ok to be greedy.
> > >> > --- In 
> > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >> "Ray" <rzorz@> wrote:
>
> > >> > > Every system has it's problems. The US system works ok, not great,
> > >> > > if you have coverage. Even then, you get screwed if you change jobs
> > >> > > and have a pre-existing condition.
>
> > >> > > The US healthcare system let my sister down. I don't know if they
> > >> > > could've saved her anyway, but the reality is with no insurance, you
> > >> > > have to rely on state run systems like AHCCCHS in Az.
>
> > >> > > _____
>
> > >> > > From: 
> > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >> On Behalf Of bruce
> > >> > > majors
> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:14 PM
> > >> > > To: 
> > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social medicine
> > >> > > works
>
> > >> > > no as usual you are lying
>
> > >> > > infection rates are also higher in British National Health Service
> > >> > > hospitals
>
> > >> > > you have no thinking ability so following the causality is beyond
> > >> > > you
>
> > >> > > a state monopoly system means you cannot vote with your feet and go
> > >> > > elsewhere, therefore the service providers do not have to provide
> > >> > > you with good serice, like clean hospitals
>
> > >> > > as you have been for years, you remain a moron, a paid parrot for
> > >> > > your masters
>
> > >> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:08 AM, madtim3bat
> > >> > > <[email protected] <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >> > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > Georgia has been having problems ever since their VA hospitals were
> > >> > > subcontracted out to the private company with Republican political
> > >> > > connections. It has turned into a real nightmare.
>
> > >> > > That being said, this story is no where near as bad as this article
> > >> > claims.
> > >> > > Most likely none of these veterans got AIDS. The equipment was
> > >> > > cleaned, just not as well as it should have been.
>
> > >> > > --- In 
> > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > <mailto:ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com<ThePoliticalSpinroom%2540yah­oogroups.com>>
> > >> , bruce majors
> > >> > > <bruce.majors@> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > yea socialized medicine worked for these peeps
>
> > >> > > > Dirty Equipment May Have Infected Veterans With HIV More than
> > >> > > > 3,200 veterans asked to visit their doctor
>
> > >> > > > By TODD
> > >> > > > WRIGHT<http://www.nbcmiami.com/results/?keywords=%22TODD+WRIGHT%22
> > >> > > <http://www.nbcmiami.com/results/?keywords=%22TODD+WRIGHT%22&author=
> > >> > > y&
> > >> > > sort=d
> > >> > > ate> &author=y&sort=date>
>
> > >> > > > Updated 7:30 PM EDT, Mon, Mar 23, 2009
>
> > >> > > > Getty Images
>
> > >> > > > A VA Hospital mishap could result in infectious diseases for
> > >> > > > colonoscopy patients
>
> > >> > > > Doctors at a Miami <http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=Miami>
> > >> > > > Veterans
>
> > >> > > Administration<http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=U.S.+Department+
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > +Veter
> > >> > > ans+Affairs>hospital
>
> > >> > > > may have operated on over 3,200 patients with dirty equipment that
> > >> > > > may have infected them with deadly diseases.
>
> > >> > > > Officials said Monday colonoscopy patients should meet with a
> > >> > > > doctor to
> > >> > > get
> > >> > > > screened for HIV, hepatitis and other diseases. That's probably
> > >> > > > not the
>
> ...
>
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