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On Mar 26, 10:58 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think you tax predators and their flaks are even 50% yet. > > But no matter. You were dependent on being able to sell China and others > promissary notes where you promised to parasitize and enslave future > generations of tax slaves to pay back the debt on any money they would loan > you > > And they aren't buying any more > > So your system of slavery is going to collapse soon anyway > > Or are you some little cannon fodder dupe who believes the pseudo class > analysis your Hitlers fed you? > > No matter > > you will be starving and in a food riot during the hyper-inflation anyway > > you don't sound smart enough to survive > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sure. Go for it, if you think your 5% of the population can take the > > other 95% of us. > > > Of course, you're probably not in the top 5% anyway, unless you married > > well. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *bruce majors > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:38 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social medicine > > works > > > so then there is no reason for we productive people to just have you shot > > then > > > since you have announced your intentions to rape, mug, and rob > > > very good then > > > your name is on the list for the revolution > > > do you currently live off your mommie? is she conscious btw? do you just > > cash her disability checks for her? > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I have no sympathy for the very wealthy and could care less if they're > >> being > >> asked to ante up more money. > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>] > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn > >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:41 AM > >> To: > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social medicine works > > >> I don't know if you read the part of my post about my uncle, but the > >> ironic > >> thing is that his life was built upon the back of working class people, > >> namely my grandparents. My grandpa retired from schilling spice company in > >> the werehouse department. My grandma owned a beauty salon for 30 some > >> years. My uncle took advantage of this stable working class familly > >> environement to become the success story he is. But now he patronizes my > >> mothers side of the familly, my mother was the black sheep so to speak. We > >> have Christmas dinner with them every year and play act like we like each > >> other. But the atmosphere is so phoney it makes me want to puke sometimes. > >> This is probably a big reason why I have little patience for the very > >> wealthy. I'm every bit as intelligent as my two cousins, but they got the > >> private school educations, bought and paid for by daddy, while I funded my > >> own city college education which I would have finished had I not > >> discovered > >> the stock market. I've been a cl > >> ose observer of both sides of the tracks in my time, and I feel I have a > >> unique perspective. > >> --- In > >> [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>, > >> "Ray" <rz...@...> wrote: > > >> > The insurance companies are just a bad middleman that provide no added > >> > value to the process. > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>] > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:51 AM > >> > To: > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social medicine > >> > works > > >> > My sisters familly is insured through Kaiser for around a $1000 a > >> > month for four individuals. She hates the coverage she gets. Doctors > >> > waste her time referring her to specialist after specialist at the > >> > additional cost of 20 dollars per visit not to mention personal time > >> > lost that could be used to either make money or just spend the day in > >> > her garden. The reason her doctors give her the run-around is to fund > >> > the system with more money on top of her monthy payment, and to > >> > discourage her from getting care. Our system sucks unless your very > >> > wealthy and can afford top of the line insurance like my Uncles > >> > familly who are very wealthy. They're in Arizona taking in Spring > >> > training, and doing some more business I'm sure, as I speak. They > >> > spend practiaclly half the year traveling while the regular working > >> > people are left to suffer most of the wet grey winter here in Oregon. > >> > My uncle is loaded, and I know he could afford more taxes. He owns a > >> > brand new condo in down town Portlan d and a condo in Lake Tahoe for > >> > good measure. All this in addition to a 20-30 acre farm in the rich > >> > suburban community of Wilsonville. He used to live in a mansion in a > >> > local rich area called Lake Oswego when he was in his prime earning > >> > years. And as if he needed any more wealth, he stands to inherit more > >> > money and property when my grandma dies. He, his wife, and two > >> > childrens famillies are living it up. I'm sure they, along with other > >> > wealthy people like them in this country can afford the extra taxes so > >> > the rest of society can get a good education and health care. I don't > >> > know how he can live with himself knowing that so many poor people are > >> suffering so badly. I think he's been brainwashed by conservative talking > >> heads who've > >> > convinced him it's ok to be greedy. > >> > --- In > >> > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>, > >> "Ray" <rzorz@> wrote: > > >> > > Every system has it's problems. The US system works ok, not great, > >> > > if you have coverage. Even then, you get screwed if you change jobs > >> > > and have a pre-existing condition. > > >> > > The US healthcare system let my sister down. I don't know if they > >> > > could've saved her anyway, but the reality is with no insurance, you > >> > > have to rely on state run systems like AHCCCHS in Az. > > >> > > _____ > > >> > > From: > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > [mailto:[email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>] > >> On Behalf Of bruce > >> > > majors > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:14 PM > >> > > To: > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social medicine > >> > > works > > >> > > no as usual you are lying > > >> > > infection rates are also higher in British National Health Service > >> > > hospitals > > >> > > you have no thinking ability so following the causality is beyond > >> > > you > > >> > > a state monopoly system means you cannot vote with your feet and go > >> > > elsewhere, therefore the service providers do not have to provide > >> > > you with good serice, like clean hospitals > > >> > > as you have been for years, you remain a moron, a paid parrot for > >> > > your masters > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:08 AM, madtim3bat > >> > > <[email protected] <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>> > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > Georgia has been having problems ever since their VA hospitals were > >> > > subcontracted out to the private company with Republican political > >> > > connections. It has turned into a real nightmare. > > >> > > That being said, this story is no where near as bad as this article > >> > claims. > >> > > Most likely none of these veterans got AIDS. The equipment was > >> > > cleaned, just not as well as it should have been. > > >> > > --- In > >> > > [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > <mailto:ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com<ThePoliticalSpinroom%2540yahoogroups.com>> > >> , bruce majors > >> > > <bruce.majors@> wrote: > > >> > > > yea socialized medicine worked for these peeps > > >> > > > Dirty Equipment May Have Infected Veterans With HIV More than > >> > > > 3,200 veterans asked to visit their doctor > > >> > > > By TODD > >> > > > WRIGHT<http://www.nbcmiami.com/results/?keywords=%22TODD+WRIGHT%22 > >> > > <http://www.nbcmiami.com/results/?keywords=%22TODD+WRIGHT%22&author= > >> > > y& > >> > > sort=d > >> > > ate> &author=y&sort=date> > > >> > > > Updated 7:30 PM EDT, Mon, Mar 23, 2009 > > >> > > > Getty Images > > >> > > > A VA Hospital mishap could result in infectious diseases for > >> > > > colonoscopy patients > > >> > > > Doctors at a Miami <http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=Miami> > >> > > > Veterans > > >> > > Administration<http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=U.S.+Department+ > >> > > of > >> > > +Veter > >> > > ans+Affairs>hospital > > >> > > > may have operated on over 3,200 patients with dirty equipment that > >> > > > may have infected them with deadly diseases. > > >> > > > Officials said Monday colonoscopy patients should meet with a > >> > > > doctor to > >> > > get > >> > > > screened for HIV, hepatitis and other diseases. That's probably > >> > > > not the > >> > > best > >> > > > way to pay back people who laid their life on the line for this > >> country. > > >> > > > "It is outrageous and unacceptable that our veterans would be > >> > > > subjected to such shocking mistreatment," Congressman Ron > > >> > > > Klein<http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=Ron+Klein>said. "There > >> > > > must > > >> > > > be a full investigation - beginning today - into how this could > >> > > > possibly happen, who was responsible and how we can ensure our > >> > > > hospitals are safe going forward." > > >> > > > Patients from May 2004 through March 12, 2009 should rush to see a > >> > > > doctor and get tested. > > >> > > > It's unclear how the infectious equipment made it into operating > >> > > > rooms, > >> > > but > >> > > > VA officials said the problem was things were sterilized properly. > >> > > > Still, > >> > > VA > >> > > > officials claim the threat is minimal and that no tools that > >> > > > actually made contact with the patients was contaminated. > > >> > > > The announcement is becoming a disturbing trend for the > >> > > > government-funded hospitals aimed at helping veterans, especially > >> > > > those who needed to get their colons checked out. > > >> > > > Last month, a similar red alert was sounded for 6,400 veterans who > >> > > > had a colonoscopy at a VA hospital. > > >> > > > VA officials also said 1,800 veterans treated at an ear, nose and > >> > > > throat > > >> > > > clinic in Augusta <http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=Augusta>, > >> > > > Ga., > >> > > were > > >> > > > alerted they could have been exposed to an infection due to > >> > > > improper disinfection of an instrument. > > >> > > > Copyright Associated Press / NBC Miami > > >> > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM, gengelhorn > >> > > > <[email protected] <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com <no_reply%2540yahoogroups.com>> > >> >wrote: > > >> > > > > I'm sitting here watching "Sicko" on showtime, well at least a > >> > > > > couple of scenes, and it still amazes me. The French, who have > >> > > > > been so criticized > >> > > by a > >> > > > > certain right wing party in America, take better care of their > >> > > > > citzens > >> > > than > >> > > > > America does. Daycare for a dollar an hour. Doctors doing house > >> > > > > calls > >> > > for > >> > > > > nothing. Chemotherapy for free. Unlimited sick days. In America > >> > > > > your > >> > > treated > >> > > > > like a lazy sob when your sick. In the movie this doctor says > >> > > > > that the people who are more fortunate take care of those who > >> > > > > are less > >> > fortunate. > >> > > You > >> > > > > pay according to your means, and you take according to your needs. > > >> > > > > Kind > >> > > of > >> > > > > like me paying my property taxes for local schools. I don't have > >> > > > > any > >> > > kids, > >> > > > > but I pay for schools anyway. Why do I do this? Because kids > >> > > > > need an education, and it's that simple. 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