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On Apr 1, 5:28 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > Divide and conquer. "They" are having their way; don't you see? > > I reiterate; to wit > > "The king ruled by force, the priest by fear, and both by both. > > The king said to the people. "God made you peasants, and He made me > king; He made you to labor, and me to enjoy; He made rags and hovels > for you, robes and palaces for me. He made you to obey, and me to > command. Such is the justice of God." > > And the priest said; "God made you ignorant and vile; He made me holy > and wise; you are the sheep, I am the shepherd; your fleeces belong to > me. If you do not obey me here, God will punish you now and torment > you forever in another world. Such is the mercy of God." > > Peace, > Doc > > On Mar 31, 9:16 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you for sharing this article by Tom Mattzie Biff. > > > First, I would be opposed to Notre Dame rescinding the offer made to > > President Obama inviting him to speak at Notre Dame's commencement > > ceremonies in May. Despite my opposition to most all of President Obama's > > policies, and my questioning his legitimacy as the president because of the > > constitutionality of his presidency, President Obama is still the President > > of the United States, and should be afforded the respect of the office of > > President. > > > If President Obama had any common decency, common sense, or moral fortitude, > > President Obama would personally decline the offer, being that > > the fundamental tenets of Notre Dame and Catholicism is in direct contrast > > to his policies and agenda. > > > Where Mr. Mattzie gets his belief that there is some "Republican operative > > in Right Wing Groups that founded the group attacking Notre Dame is asinine, > > and a typical far left, radical extremist ploy. The fact is, that the > > United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has previously called for > > Catholic institutions to shun those political figures who act “in defiance > > of our fundamental moral principles”: > > >http://www.usccb.org/bishops/catholicsinpoliticallife.shtml > > > There is a large backlash from student groups and student unions at Notre > > Dame who are opposed to President Obama's appearance: > > > "Notre Dame Student Groups Denounce University's Choice for Commencement > > Speech" : > > >http://www.ndresponse.com/press.html > > > There is a large backlash among Catholics in general. The Bishop that is > > head of the Catholic Diocese in South Bend Indiana has refused to attend, as > > well as a significant amount of dignitaries who are Catholic. Just as > > important, the Catholic community is upset with the decision by Notre Dame: > > >http://content.usatoday.com/communities/religion/post/2009/03/64571525/1 > > > What Mr. Mattzie fails to realize, is that it is he, and the Democrat Party > > that are out of touch with Americans and our Nation. Mr. Mattzie's > > partisan statement that, > > > "Right-wing institutes and non-profits that seek to influence protestant > > churches and Judaism. Their goal is to undermine religious social thought > > that might tilt things towards progressive policies rather than the > > now-failed conservative policies." > > > clearly shows that Mr. Mattzie is out-of-touch with not only his faith, > > but with the rest of Americans. I would challenge Mr. Mattzie, as well as > > you Biff, to name, the "great and large swath of Catholic teaching(s)" that > > Mr. Mattzie references, which he believes President Obama supports. > > > There are none. The Democrat Party, as well as President Obama are out of > > touch with America, as they are clearly seeing and beginning to understand. > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ....."This is an effort by a small cabal of ultra-conservative > > > partisans to separate Catholicism from its calling for social and > > > economic justice and peace. A Republican operative who has > > > simultaneous roles at other Right-Wing groups founded the group > > > attacking Notre Dame. > > > > There are similar efforts is about the giant fights in Washington right > > > now > > > over the > > > economy, health care and the future of our planet. > > > > These Obama and Notre Dame critics are not speaking for a serious > > > number of the tens of millions of American Catholics who voted for > > > Barack Obama--nor even probably most of those who voted for John > > > McCain. > > > > As an alumnus of Notre Dame (Class of 1997 and one-time class > > > president) who has gone on to a career in Democratic and progressive > > > politics I am proud that my alma mater is welcoming our president. > > > > There is no doubt that Notre Dame, as a Catholic institution, will > > > disagree with the president on specific issues like abortion. But > > > there is a great and large swath of Catholic teaching that addresses > > > policies for people who are poor, sick, aged, immigrants, those with > > > disabilities, war enemies and those in prison. These attacks on Notre > > > Dame are an attack on Catholic social teachings." > > > > Tom Mattzie > > > > On Mar 30, 8:27 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It will be interesting to see if Notre Dame shucks Obama as a > > > > Commencement speaker/ recipient of an an honorary law degree in the > > > > face of rising opposition. We know Obama's "buck" is continuous- where > > > > does the moral position of a faith turn into loose change? > > > > > On Mar 30, 7:38 pm, Jim Willis <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > The straw dog put forth by the leftist sadist loons is that, “abiding > > > > > solely within their ranks” is compassion for minorities, the oppressed > > > > > and disenfranchised. Though; this beguiles their absolute mission to > > > > > simply prostitute these groups in a quest to abolish the religious > > > > > underpinnings this country was founded upon. Karl Marx once said, > > > > > “Religion is the opiate of the masses”. It has been the ardent > > > > > ambition of liberal progressives to detoxify America of all religious, > > > > > “opiates” and to remove the moral handrails of the huddled masses. > > > > > > Prior to the Roe V. Wade decision of 1973 progressives denied a > > > > > religious or political perspective postulation on the subject of > > > > > abortion. Their claim, “at that time” was that abortion was a > > > > > constitutional issue, not a social conundrum to be left to the sway of > > > > > the electorate over its properly elected representatives. And; thanks > > > > > to a legislative Supreme Court, a finding of a general right to > > > > > privacy in the constitution, “where ones does not exist”, emanations > > > > > of penumbras along with a complete adulteration of our binding > > > > > document; the right to an abortion became the law of the land, “though > > > > > not one citizen voted for it”. > > > > > > Then; before the ink had dried on the courts opinion, lying leftists > > > > > leapt into action, “belying their true aspiration” by reversing > > > > > previous posits on post conception as a legal argument and > > > > > diametrically bemused that the slaughter of the un-born, “AK.A. > > > > > Choice” is Social-Political speech. Expanding that vein the Neo- > > > > > Leftists concluded that religious organizations espousing anti- > > > > > abortion sentiments need lose their tax exempt tax status for > > > > > exhibiting political preference. This tact being akin to Jeffrey > > > > > Dahmer first saying, “I only killed them to eat them” and then saying, > > > > > “I only ate them because they were dead”. > > > > > > To this very day, lawsuits are worming their way throughout our courts > > > > > as the ACLU, “the tip of the lefts spear” challenges the tax exempt > > > > > status of the Catholic church because of their anti-abortion stance. > > > > > It was never about abortion to these heathen hedonists. It was always > > > > > an attack on religion. > > > > > > This isn’t a new phenomenon. The Nazi Socialists that encompass our > > > > > enemies on the left have been on the attack against religion for at > > > > > least a hundred years; whether it is their pursuit of Darwinism, > > > > > removing the bible from our classrooms, public squares and courtrooms > > > > > to nativity scenes, crosses and a devilish zeal to belittle religious > > > > > moorings in our pop culture. > > > > > > Latest in the Lilliputian Leftists quiver is the rear attack; “pardon > > > > > the pun” for the establishment of gay marriage. Their quest to > > > > > legitimize gay marriage has little to do with gay rights, gay marriage > > > > > or ass-less chaps. Their intent, their desire, their holy grail is to > > > > > standardize gay marriage as the norm, the law of the land and to > > > > > regard those that might oppose it on a societal or religious > > > > > foundation as fringe, bigoted homophobic rubes. > > > > > > Then they will proffer that those groups, “and religions” that might > > > > > oppose a duly constructed right, under the law, ought not to be > > > > > granted a tax exempt status as, “their opines… opinions” are now > > > > > beyond the law and violate the separation of church and state. By the > > > > > way; there is no separation of church and state abiding within the > > > > > text of our constitution…I’m just saying. > > > > > > Conservative Springfield Staff Writer > > > > > 31MAR09- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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